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It's trite but true: The ends don't justify the means. You're arguing about formal due process when everyone else is arguing about substantive due process (I'm Canadian rather than American, so I'd probably call it fundamental justice, but the principle is the same). No one is arguing that the formal process hasn't been followed, they're arguing that the formal process violates the idea of fundamental justice. Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 03-07-2013 at 12:20 PM. |
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What would you say if "an expert in their field" judge decided that MR should be banned based on a claim that people were learning how to create and edit ePubs, and they could use that knowledge to change a copyrighted work.
"Experts in their field" are, in my experience, not really expert. They just have experience. Rarely do they know all the intricacies involved. That's why it is important to allow the different parties to present their cases. Then an experienced judge can make an informed decision based on the law and the arguments as given. If a judge bases all the decisions on his opinion/experience, then there is a much greater possibility of error. |
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Because these are sites which have thumbed their noses at the law for goodness knows how many years. To complain that they are being unfairly treated by that same law which they have ignored for years strikes me as somewhat ludicrous. They have shown nothing but contempt for the law, but the process of the law HAS been followed to block them.
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If someone thought you committed a crime and you did not, would you not mind that you've been found guilty without a chance to get your day in court to prove otherwise? |
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Which UK law have they thumbed their nose at? The internet says they all acted on American DMCA notices, even though as you say they have no need to, so I can't really see why they would ignore any comparable UK requirements. http://torrentfreak.com/top-torrent-...google-120604/ |
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As long as the law dots all of the Is, crosses all of the Ts, and fills out all of the required forms in triplicate, it's all perfectly fine. It doesn't matter that the process itself would fit right in a Kafka novel as long as all of the correct bureaucratic hoops were duly jumped through. Today's moral: It doesn't matter how your team wins as long as they win. |
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TPB ignored all URL removal requests in any form, as your own link says. H33T requires the complainer to pay $50 per URL removed. Quote:
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And the Copyright Office charges $135 for Copyright infringement claims, so your complaint is that H33T requires less money? |
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Does that sound like a scheme they genuinely expect content holders to take part in? Google process something like 4 million DMCA takedowns a week. At the same rate of charging, that would be $10 billion dollars a year. Last edited by murraypaul; 03-07-2013 at 06:50 PM. |
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