02-18-2023, 09:09 PM | #16 | ||
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 5,424
Karma: 99236514
Join Date: Apr 2011
Device: pb360
|
Quote:
Since a publisher holds rights, I am still curious how far those extend, in theory and practice. (i'm guessing they are more careful about overstepping for prominent or litigious authors.) |
||
02-18-2023, 09:40 PM | #17 | ||
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 7,147
Karma: 39379388
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: near Philadelphia USA
Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation)
|
Quote:
Quote:
The way I read the original Telegraph story, there might have been a rare and isolated extremely-ugly-word change before Netflix took over, but all, or almost all, of the changes were not in the published books until after Netflix owned all the rights. EDIT: But I guess the above is trivia. It shouldn't matter, for sake of this discussion, whether the bowdlerizer is genetically related to the deceased author. An exception might be where the surviving rights-owning relative was a spouse who acted as almost a co-author, but there is nothing like that here. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 02-19-2023 at 07:12 AM. |
||
Advert | |
|
02-19-2023, 03:12 PM | #18 | ||
Gentleman and scholar
Posts: 11,241
Karma: 110205705
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Space City, Texas
Device: Clara HD; Nook ST w/Glowlight, (2015) Glowlight Plus, Paperwhite 3
|
Quote:
This was being looked at in 2020 and the Roald Dahl people were just waiting for the next print run. Quote:
|
||
02-19-2023, 04:54 PM | #19 |
Resident Curmudgeon
Posts: 75,803
Karma: 134321338
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
When I was a kid and reading, such wording as originally used would not have been a problem for me. This is nothing but BS and telling the wold that kids these days are too weak to read these books as they were written.
|
02-19-2023, 05:40 PM | #20 |
Wizard
Posts: 1,032
Karma: 12018368
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Canada
Device: Sony PRS-650, Kobo Clara
|
I'm curious. Will there still be happy little orange slaves?
|
Advert | |
|
02-19-2023, 08:13 PM | #21 |
Bibliophagist
Posts: 39,227
Karma: 153111226
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos
|
|
02-19-2023, 09:07 PM | #22 | ||
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 7,147
Karma: 39379388
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: near Philadelphia USA
Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation)
|
Quote:
Netflix started buying rights in 2018. Here’s something from the New York Times story on that: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/a...oald-dahl.html Quote:
|
||
02-19-2023, 10:33 PM | #23 |
Fanatic
Posts: 543
Karma: 13511506
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cleveland, OH
Device: Voyage, Oasis, Kobo Glo HD,iPad Pro, Sony 350 and T2
|
Not a fan at all of this kind of thing. I think books should remain a part of the time they were written.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
02-20-2023, 02:19 AM | #24 |
Wizard
Posts: 1,296
Karma: 6700864
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Australia
Device: Kobo Libra 2
|
|
02-20-2023, 03:29 AM | #25 | |
the rook, bossing Never.
Posts: 12,248
Karma: 89531599
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ireland
Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11
|
A backlash starts:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...nguage-altered Quote:
|
|
02-20-2023, 05:25 AM | #26 |
Avid reader
Posts: 854
Karma: 6377682
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Device: Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 / Kindle Paperwhite
|
Phillip Pullman had an interesting take on it on the Radio 4 Today programme this morning. His view seemed to be let the market decide - leave the original wording and if people don't like it they won't buy the books, and they (the books) will go out of print and fade into deserved obscurity letting more modern, relevant authors come to the fore.
Of course people who want to continue to make money from the Dahl books aren't likely to see it that way. Andrew |
02-20-2023, 05:30 AM | #27 |
Diligent dilettante
Posts: 3,440
Karma: 49052774
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: in my mind
Device: Kobo Sage; Kobo Libra H2O
|
|
02-20-2023, 06:08 AM | #28 |
Avid reader
Posts: 854
Karma: 6377682
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Device: Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 4 / Kindle Paperwhite
|
|
02-20-2023, 06:34 AM | #29 | |
Ebook reader
Posts: 389
Karma: 5899335
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: York, England
Device: Kobo Aura H2O (ed 2, v1), Kobo Forma, Kobo Libra 2
|
Quote:
On the Dahl Bowdlerisation, seems to be another absurdity. Current thinking ignores the fact that people actually choose to be offended - it is not a natural state - and if they choose to be offended by something Dahl or anybody else says, that's their problem. Say what you like and I won't be offended. Why should it be necessary to avoid saying what offends them today (but didn't offend anyone years ago?) They could choose simply not to be offended. And of course if they get their way with this, tomorrow they will be offended by something else and off we go again. |
|
02-20-2023, 07:22 AM | #30 |
Wizard
Posts: 4,334
Karma: 4000000
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Paris
Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1
|
The real problem I see there
- How do we as customers know what version we buy ? - Availability of the original text for those still wishing to read it. And then as Pullman said, let's see that the customers actually prefer. |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Kindle Paperwhite: Author not getting rewritten when using plugboard template | kevbo | Library Management | 5 | 09-09-2015 08:29 PM |
Roald Dahl | anamardoll | General Discussions | 20 | 06-30-2011 11:51 PM |
Better World Books (Paper) 25% off Children's Books Until 5/8/11 | NightBird | Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links) | 0 | 05-02-2011 02:16 PM |
children books | randy29 | Reading Recommendations | 1 | 11-10-2006 09:42 AM |