03-19-2015, 05:48 PM | #16 |
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My library in Aus uses the Overdrive system, so what does the Rakuten buyout mean for us? And countries using Overdrive other than the US?
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From my perspective, as a US Kindle owner, this is an ominous occurrence. I have every right to consider things as potentially bad insomuch as they might affect me that way. You are more than welcome to consider anything you damn well want to be as good or bad as you like, I promise I won't stop you. Last edited by eschwartz; 03-19-2015 at 06:15 PM. Reason: typos |
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The question in my mind, when I read the headline, was how Rakuten stands regarding freedom to read. But googling in search of cooperation with national censorship, I can't find problems.
If you go by the adversary-of-my-adversary-is-my-friend principle, it's a good sign that the Great Firewall of China blocks their home web site, rakuten.co.jp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website...mainland_China |
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You might not like a theoretical outcome, which we've had no evidence to support save that a company that isn't Amazon bought a company that Amazon benefits from. The only announced plans they have are bringing Overdrive to Kobo apps, and devices. |
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03-20-2015, 02:26 AM | #21 |
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Look, this is not to say that this sale automatically guarantees the destruction of library ebook borrowing or Amazon's Kindle, but we've seen this kind of thing before.
B&N didn't announce they planned to take Fictionwise/eReader's DRM scheme and then close the best ebook site previously known. Amazon didn't announce it tended to restrict the Mobipocket format to only Amazon devices and then close that site. It happens. Corporations have long term plans they don't announce to the world when they buy/takeover/merge with other companies. |
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It will be good to have an ePub Reader that can once again check out library ePub direct from the device. That functionality was lost when Sony stopped making Readers. Kobo Readers will have that and that's a good thing.
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They are a very large, very powerful business now not only in Japan, but internationally. They were the first company in 50 years in Japan to be able to start up a new Baseball franchise. Might not sound like much, but this is a huge political accomplishment - not to mention financial expense. They recently entered the eCommerce market in Malaysia, and are giving Alibaba a run for their money. They have an online marketplace similar to Amazon where you can open your own storefront. These guys are going to be around for a long time, and they move very, very quickly. It will be interesting to see what they do with OverDrive and Kobo as the center of their eBook strategy. I contacted them about putting my print books in their online catalog, and they have something in the works they will be announcing this year. Who knows if that will be another acquisition or if they will do something on their own, but they have expansion of print book sales as one of their targets for this year as well. |
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Overdrive library pricing is quite high. Enough to draw in some deeper pocket competitors like 3M. And they *are* profitable, which Kobo hasn't been. (Possibly becsuse of their local retailer reliance/cost sharing, possibly because of their less-than-successful tablet venture.) I think it is significant that they're paying more for Overdrive than they paid for Kobo, even back when ebook adoption was booming and Kobo still had hopes for big growth in the US/UK markets. Also, there is more to Overdrive than library ebooks; they're a back-end ebook services provider like Bluefire and they have long been active in educational ebook efforts which is how they landed in the library business. Quote:
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Overdrive has a business that can both leverage Amazon's market as well as the other global players and as well as compete with them. They're no crusaders, they'll just go where the money is. Edit: There are two things ebook related that Kobo does that Overdrive doesn't and that is hardware and Indie publishing. Although Overdrive has been reaching out to indies recently, through their Smashwords deal. There is some potential for sibling rivalry in this deal. It'll be interesting to see how things play out. Last edited by fjtorres; 03-20-2015 at 08:53 AM. |
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Overdrive is not without competitors in the library ebook business; if they were to choose to cut Amazon off, Amazon can always go to 3M or B&T and set up shop with them. And at that point, the question becomes: "How many libraries (already ticked at Overdrive pricing) jump ship to maintsin support to Kindle owners (and save money)." Sure, they could hurt Kindle a bit. But Kindles sold like hotcakes before they offered library support and Overdrive would suffer if 3M or B&T get a boost from Amazon. http://www.3m.com/us/library/eBook/ http://www.btol.com/axis360.cfm Cutting Kindle isn't even likely to help Kobo. Library ebook support didn't do all that much for Sony. And since the Kindle deal is US only, a market that is just an afterthought for Kobo, they're not going to get much in the way of added sales without first raising their visibility outside the hobbyist market. Overdrive would lose more strategically than Kobo could possibly gain. Last edited by fjtorres; 03-20-2015 at 09:29 AM. |
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From the article here “The near-term opportunity is for us to do a more direct integration with Kobo apps and devices, where you can instantly borrow a book from a school or library and have it appear on your Kobo bookshelf,” OverDrive CEO Steve Potash said." Which as far as I can find has been the only comment about future plans. Could Rakuten make Overdrive favor Kobo only? Sure, but unless they can ensure Kindle users convert to Kobo changing the behavior could negatively impact them as well. Fewer Kindle users borrowing library books equates to less need for the library to have more licenses to lend, and thus less money via that revenue stream for Rakuten. I think it's more likely that they remove the exclusivity of it from Kindle and leave it at that, as others have stated there are alternatives to Overdrive and I'm sure Amazon can work out deals with those companies as well. |
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I wonder if Rakuten will have more clout now in dealing with publishers to get their WMA audiobook titles finally converted over to MP3? OverDrive has been going at this for over a year now with minimal success and not much movement lately.
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03-20-2015, 06:23 PM | #30 |
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Maybe the revenue stream from libraries wasn't their sole reason for this purchase.
My first thought upon reading "Rakuten Buys OverDrive" was that they could info-mine our reading habits, in order to more accurately target us for their myriad of other retail products. No facts whatsoever behind this thought, just run-of-the-mill modern consumer skepticism. |
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