12-03-2012, 06:46 PM | #16 |
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I think this will only apply to low and low-mid end. For certain things like laptops and all-in-one the saved cost and space make sense. But there is still market in hi-end. Though prices might go up a bit. Still this does offer better opportunities for low-power devices for general computing.
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I had thought that many consumer PCs had already gone the route of soldered CPU with integrated video. One market that will be very disappointed with this development are gamers who build their own PCs. They're obviously not Mac users.
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I don't think this will make a huge difference.
PC's are well past being commodities, and are now less than 20% of the market. Most of those machines are going to businesses and schools, who have absolutely no need for socketed CPU's. Hobbyists won't be terribly inconvenienced, because most of the time they will upgrade the mobo and RAM at the same time they upgrade the CPU, e.g. to take advantage of a new bus or new type of RAM. This is only going to affect a very small number of users, namely a handful gamers who actually swap out the CPU, and nothing but the CPU, every 3-6 months. |
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Do you have the PGA solder mask, and paste solder (and applicator) ? paste solder is Not flux. 180+ tiny dots of solder, then the chip is placed and heated (remember whey you DID NOT get chips too hot when soldering) to flow the paste. Microscope needed. Last edited by theducks; 12-05-2012 at 09:02 PM. Reason: fix typos |
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The next step into making PCs a non-modular device... *puke*
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To make the placement of the solder paste easier, you can get Mylar stencils from places like Pololu, and then you just use a squeegee to ensure the proper thickness in the proper places. BGA CPUs will make it so fewer people change their chips, but I honestly can't remember ever changing out a CPU without also changing out the motherboard. And if someone can use Google, they can figure out how to desolder the chip and resolder a new one on there. Not as easy as a socket, but it will help a bunch with proper connections of each trace as well as decreased costs. EDIT: Good Tutorial Last edited by MovieBird; 12-04-2012 at 09:47 PM. Reason: Added Link |
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How about cardboard, some fitting and regular oven? Just place it tightly around all other components and let it desolder the CPU... Soldering it back is the interesting part ;D
Still, I don't think they will go all the way with this. |
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I'm an enthusiast, but I really don't think this is a massive deal. So long as they don't push forward with ideas of soldered memory or 'secure' SSD's being the default. Know they were toying with the ideas for servers and low end boxes.
My little netbook has soldered mem and no spare socket, all because the vendor didn't change the model number... while completely changing the model itself. Now I have 4gb sitting about on my desk |
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