Who Would Buy a Bookeen Eink Reader? - Page 7

Redfoot · 12-23-2006, 04:02 AM

Why have a on screen or included keyboard? If there is a USB port any standard keyboard can be pluged in as long as the software supports it.

NatCh · 12-23-2006, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashkulz

Well, as I understand it the refresh rate on e-ink displays is pretty bad and you can't easily update a part of the screen -- hence it's not possible to have an on-screen keyboard.

Well, that's not quite so.

You can refresh just part of the screen, it usually results in higher ghosting in the refreshed area is all.

As for the buttons ... the Sony Reader has ~15 buttons depending on how you count 'em.

alex_d · 12-23-2006, 05:22 PM

Yeah, if you just want to paint black over white you don't need to do a negative (1s->0.5s), plus, for quick multitapping, it might be possible to start painting a new choice before the old one is dry (kinda like an interrupt). If not that, then just start painting it in a slightly diff spot (like above or below). Even if asynch drawing doesn't work, needing half a minute to type two words is still better than nothing.

It would've been really cool if the Sony had a tiny lcd like the hanlin. But alas..

nekokami · 12-23-2006, 11:15 PM

Doesn't the iLiad have an on-screen keyboard?

NatCh · 12-24-2006, 11:02 AM

Yeah, it does, I meant to mention that before, but got distracted, I guess.

unkilbeeg · 12-25-2006, 08:22 PM

I've been looking over this thread, and after a couple of weeks living with the Sony Reader I have these criteria (that I don't think I saw mentioned):

1) Specific external software must not be necessary for loading books onto the reader. It needs to be mountable via USB as a drive and files simply copied across. This doesn't mean that dedicated software is forbidden -- some people like those kinds of applications, but it should not be necessary.

2) Any library organization (categories, bookshelves, whatever) should be implemented using the filesystem -- I should be able to separate my groups of books by copying files into specific directories. Again, no specific software should be necessary on my host PC.

I'm not sure if I'm a good candidate for this reader right now -- the Sony is a big investment for me, and it'll be some time before I can justify a similar expense for another similar device. The Bookeen sounds like it has potential to be superior to the Sony, so it would be tempting, but not (for now) compelling.

I don't particularly care about DRM support. I own no DRMed books (other than what came on the Sony, scheduled for deletion soon), nor will I ever. If the support is there, that's fine, but I wouldn't pay an extra nickel to obtain it. A lot of the other extra cost items that have been mentioned would also be non-useful to me -- lighting, touchscreens, search, etc. Again, I wouldn't mind them existing if others want them, but if they ended up raising the price above my threshold, I'd count them as a negative.

Clemenseken · 07-01-2007, 04:11 PM

I don't own any eReader yet - and haven't read all other replies, either.

Still i'd like to list my most IMPORTANT items here:

1) Formats: PDF, HTML, TXT, JPG (minimum requirements)

2) Touchscreen for Input/GUI and taking notes (PLEAAAASE !!!)

3) I'd love to have more than 4 "colours" (but will go with'em...)

4) An SDK that makes "free" development possible (must)

(Will we be informed of any progress in the proceedings ?!?)

NatCh · 07-01-2007, 05:59 PM

Unfortunately, this particular initiative has been pretty much dead for several months -- we couldn't get the numbers of interested folks together at the time.

The good news is that it seems Bookeen is about set to release an updated model fairly soon that will have somewhat better features than the one this thread was discussing, and it should be more readily available.

However, I don't know that it will have the features you've mentioned, and I expect that some of those will be quite some time coming, color, for instance, is still quite a ways off, apparently.

I think I'll go ahead and close this thread, since the original point of it has passed, if somebody wants to continue the discussion, it might be best to start another thread with a more appropriate title.

View Poll Results: Do you want to buy a Bookeen eink reader?
I would pay no more than $200.00USD	20	21.05%
I would buy two at no more than $200.00USD each	1	1.05%
I would buy three at no more than $200.00USD each	1	1.05%
I would pay no more than $250.00USD	13	13.68%
I would buy two at no more than $250.00USD each	2	2.11%
I would buy three at no more than $250.00USD each	0	0%
I would pay no more than $300.00USD	16	16.84%
I would buy two at no more than $300.00USD each	1	1.05%
I would buy three at no more than $300.00USD each	2	2.11%
I would pay no more than $350.00USD	25	26.32%
I would buy two at no more than $350.00USD each	2	2.11%
I would buy three at no more than $350.00USD each	0	0%
I would pay no more than $400.00USD	10	10.53%
I would buy two at no more than $400.00USD each	2	2.11%
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12-23-2006, 04:02 AM	#91
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12-23-2006, 05:22 PM	#93
alex_d Addict Posts: 303 Karma: 187 Join Date: Dec 2006 Device: Sony Reader	Yeah, if you just want to paint black over white you don't need to do a negative (1s->0.5s), plus, for quick multitapping, it might be possible to start painting a new choice before the old one is dry (kinda like an interrupt). If not that, then just start painting it in a slightly diff spot (like above or below). Even if asynch drawing doesn't work, needing half a minute to type two words is still better than nothing. It would've been really cool if the Sony had a tiny lcd like the hanlin. But alas..

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nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Doesn't the iLiad have an on-screen keyboard?

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unkilbeeg Enthusiast Posts: 49 Karma: 80904 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bakersfield, CA Device: Sony PRS-500/Astak EZReader 5"/PocketBook 360/Kindle	I've been looking over this thread, and after a couple of weeks living with the Sony Reader I have these criteria (that I don't think I saw mentioned): 1) Specific external software must not be necessary for loading books onto the reader. It needs to be mountable via USB as a drive and files simply copied across. This doesn't mean that dedicated software is forbidden -- some people like those kinds of applications, but it should not be necessary. 2) Any library organization (categories, bookshelves, whatever) should be implemented using the filesystem -- I should be able to separate my groups of books by copying files into specific directories. Again, no specific software should be necessary on my host PC. I'm not sure if I'm a good candidate for this reader right now -- the Sony is a big investment for me, and it'll be some time before I can justify a similar expense for another similar device. The Bookeen sounds like it has potential to be superior to the Sony, so it would be tempting, but not (for now) compelling. I don't particularly care about DRM support. I own no DRMed books (other than what came on the Sony, scheduled for deletion soon), nor will I ever. If the support is there, that's fine, but I wouldn't pay an extra nickel to obtain it. A lot of the other extra cost items that have been mentioned would also be non-useful to me -- lighting, touchscreens, search, etc. Again, I wouldn't mind them existing if others want them, but if they ended up raising the price above my threshold, I'd count them as a negative.

07-01-2007, 04:11 PM	#97
Clemenseken eWriter Posts: 267 Karma: 175607 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Frankfurt, FRG Device: PB-IQ / Sony PRS-500	I don't own any eReader yet - and haven't read all other replies, either. Still i'd like to list my most IMPORTANT items here: 1) Formats: PDF, HTML, TXT, JPG (minimum requirements) 2) Touchscreen for Input/GUI and taking notes (PLEAAAASE !!!) 3) I'd love to have more than 4 "colours" (but will go with'em...) 4) An SDK that makes "free" development possible (must) (Will we be informed of any progress in the proceedings ?!?)

07-01-2007, 05:59 PM	#98
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Unfortunately, this particular initiative has been pretty much dead for several months -- we couldn't get the numbers of interested folks together at the time. The good news is that it seems Bookeen is about set to release an updated model fairly soon that will have somewhat better features than the one this thread was discussing, and it should be more readily available. However, I don't know that it will have the features you've mentioned, and I expect that some of those will be quite some time coming, color, for instance, is still quite a ways off, apparently. I think I'll go ahead and close this thread, since the original point of it has passed, if somebody wants to continue the discussion, it might be best to start another thread with a more appropriate title.