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The reason Amazon wants a strong DRM on their books has nothing to do with piracy. They just want us to read our Kindle books on Kindle devices and in Kindle apps, so they can data mine us. They don't want us to remove the DRM and read the book on something else, where they can't access our data.
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Yes, when the unbroken DRM was only on certain books, it seemed that it was on the publishers insistance for stronger protection. But with this update, it is even on books from publishers/authors who don't want DRM on their books. So this is definitely all for Amazon. Of course, it drives a few folks like us away. But many people don't care about being able to read on other devices or having their own backups.
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Hello. Having been one of the first "victims" of the forced implementation of version 2.4.1 of K4PC (don't know whether French customers were their test target for this specific attack...), I found out nearly all by myself then that reverting to 2.4.0 fixed the issue of having to deal wih non-convertible "KFX-ZIP" files. I think the instructions on the first post of this thread are very clear and should bring anyone being annoyd with this out of trouble. I donwloaded the "disable_k4pc_download" program, I'm not sure whether I make it run correctly (not familiar with .bat stuff), but anyway I know that keeping the 2.4.70940 version safe will save the day should Amazon manage to do unwished for things on my my PC again...
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That will work for now. Unfortunately Amazon has a history of eventually disabling the ability to download some or all books using older versions of Kindle for PC.
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I think the local version is not 100% decisive, they also have remote control over what Kindle PC can download regardless of version (maybe with some limitation). So if some still need to do a backup I would do it now, they can both disable the ability to download ebooks from the old version and change what the old version can deliver. |
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The old version does deliver unremovable DRM on certain books. Best to avoid KFX format if possible. But only Amazon knows how much longer that will be possible for any book. They are certainly narrowing the ways to get the older formats.
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Have they closed the Bluestacks method off yet? I think they tried to force upgrade to a newer version of the app but you could get around it with an older Android version.
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Not as yet. The original 4.16.0.75 version no longer works but if you updated to 8.51.1.0 as documented by @DuckieTigger, it is still working for now.
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Small OT (but not too much). For anyone who has self-published a book on amazon choosing the drm-free option (which obviously is not respected today) and does not know where to publish it without drm (and maybe sells a book every now and then so the minimum of $50 payout from kobo is unrealistic), I suggest itch (which has a minimum payout of $5 and which has an extremely simple publishing process (including tax management and similar bureaucracy)).
Some time ago I had directly published a public dropbox link on my book amazon page description (I hate drm and I didn't want my customers to be deprived of the drm-free version), then the instructions to remove the drm, today I simply suggest the itch version on the same description. It's not like I make more than 10€ each year so for me it's not something that I do for money, but I would have done the same anyway, I hate drm, that's why I opted out in the publishing process on amazon, that's also why I don't like that they opt you in without any consent (I asked again the amazon support to correct this, I know they will not do it but I decided to try again anyway, maybe if enough authors decide to complaining about this problem and opting to publish elsewhere will be corrected. After all, one thing is the elimination of drm by those who publish with drm, another thing is the fact that they put drm where it shouldn't be). |
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After 2 days of contacting both the kindle support and KDP support (they will try to send you to someone else) I was finally able to get an open ticket about the bug of Kindle PC app that download ebook drm-free with drm.
Since in the end the KDP team was not the one to open the ticket I think anyone who got a drm-free book on amazon (if "Download & transfer via USB" give you a drm-free copy you got one) can try to do the same thing. To do it go here: http://www.amazon.it/kindlesupport Just do not say you are an author (even if you are)... just say you "Want to report a bug with Kindle PC app". Wait for the right agent to respond. Wait for them to ask what bug you want to report. "I want to report that Kindle PC app download any of my ebook without drm with drm. If I download this ebook (link to it) with "Download & transfer via USB" I get a DRM-free copy of this book and I know some times ago I was able to do the same on my PC with Kindle PC app on this folder "C:\Users\[username]\Documents\My Kindle Content", but right now the same ebook download with drm. So it is a bug and I want to report it so that you can fix it". The support will usually ask a few more question but if you got no luck do not waste time... some agent will not report a bug no matter how much time you lose explain things. So just answer to the first 3-4 question and if they do not report it repeat the process (I lost 1 hour yesterday... today just 20 minutes). Example: My agent today said "every ebook will have drm" I just said "and that's the bug I'm talking about in Kindle PC app, because an ebook published without drm should stay without drm and I'm still able to get the version without drm with "Download & transfer via USB" so it is a bug" My agent said "the app download ebooks with drm" (yes they are that stupid) I just said "yes, that's the bug of the Kindle PC app, the ebook that I'm talking about should be without drm. I want to report it" (after a few more stupid dialog (it was like talking to an AI) I was able to make the agent report the problem). Maybe it's useless but if a few people report it maybe at least they'll fix this. After all, the fact that it download ebooks with drm even when they are drm-free is a bug (a bug that they want there, but still a bug). |
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I had the same thought. Drawing attention to the fact that Download & Transfer provides some books DRM-free seems more likely to cause Amazon to tighten DRM on Download & Transfer, not loosen DRM on Kindle for PC. It may even hasten the day that Amazon decides to shut Download & Transfer down.
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