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[John F]

I guess that is what I was remembering.

[JSWolf]

The Christie I posted was the ePub version cleaned up. So yes, it did look better and all sections where multiple sections were put together were split. It was a better copy then on PG. But as it's not allowed, everyone will have to make their own edits.

It is a shame that MR is no longer in the US because there are a lot of good books on PG that could be posted if so.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It is a shame that MR is no longer in the US because there are a lot of good books on PG that could be posted if so.

DMCA. Patriot Act. All that really needs to be said in response.

However since I seem to be unable to stop typing, the EU limits seem to be life+70 which mirrors the US limits. Of course when we get to items that were copyrighted when copyrights were shorter and/or needed renewal and entered the public domain, you can get into some very messy situations especially when attempts are made to have items that have entered the public domain put back into copyright.

[j.p.s]

The US is still in the era where there are books older than life +70 still in copyright and books younger than life +70 already in public domain.

[DrNefario]

Indeed, like the Agatha Christie JSWolf mentions. Christie died in 1976 so won't be PD until 2047 in most of the western world, but some of her early books are now PD in the US because they are more than 95 years old.

And Conan is out of copyright everywhere except the US, where some later stories are still protected.

I think there's another wrinkle where if something is out-of-copyright in its country of origin, it is out of copyright everywhere, but that doesn't help with the above examples.

[mtravellerh]

As a matter of fact, Mobileread frowns on direct copies from Project Gutenberg. While the PG titles have a lot of merit, we do not have the space or inclination to feature as many ebooks as possible. You may download directly at PG.
We value titles that feature personal investment and a certain touch of creativity.
It may be that you use PG source material and edit it, spellcheck and make a fine ebook with a tight code. Then you are more than welcome to post this book here if the book conforms to the +70 law.
I hope that helped.

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by DrNefario

I think there's another wrinkle where if something is out-of-copyright in its country of origin, it is out of copyright everywhere, but that doesn't help with the above examples.

This is the "Rule of the Shorter Term" and unfortunately whether it's applied depends on the precise copyright agreements between the two countries concerned.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by mtravellerh

As a matter of fact, Mobileread frowns on direct copies from Project Gutenberg. While the PG titles have a lot of merit, we do not have the space or inclination to feature as many ebooks as possible. You may download directly at PG.
We value titles that feature personal investment and a certain touch of creativity.
It may be that you use PG source material and edit it, spellcheck and make a fine ebook with a tight code. Then you are more than welcome to post this book here if the book conforms to the +70 law.
I hope that helped.

That makes perfect sense

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by mtravellerh

As a matter of fact, Mobileread frowns on direct copies from Project Gutenberg. While the PG titles have a lot of merit, we do not have the space or inclination to feature as many ebooks as possible. You may download directly at PG.
We value titles that feature personal investment and a certain touch of creativity.
It may be that you use PG source material and edit it, spellcheck and make a fine ebook with a tight code. Then you are more than welcome to post this book here if the book conforms to the +70 law.
I hope that helped.

The book I posted was edited by me. I made sure the code is good and that it was formatted well. I did not just grab it and post it. I agree that would be wrong to do.

But the book I posted is out of copyright in the US based on published+95.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

This is the "Rule of the Shorter Term" and unfortunately whether it's applied depends on the precise copyright agreements between the two countries concerned.

Is the Rule of the Shorter Term applicable when it comes to works in the US?

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

But the book I posted is out of copyright in the US based on published+95.

But the rule here is Life+70.

I agree it's all a bit mad. Was in the library today and happened to be discussing it with Librarian.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Is the Rule of the Shorter Term applicable when it comes to works in the US?

Maybe not.
See

No, unless public domain in the "source country" on the "date of restoration"

And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_o..._United_States

[mtravellerh]

Mobileread servers were located in Canada not US. And we appreciate that JSWolfs book matched our our quality criteria. We just have to stay legal, which for the moment means life+70.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by mtravellerh

Mobileread servers were located in Canada not US. And we appreciate that JSWolfs book matched our our quality criteria. We just have to stay legal, which for the moment means life+70.

MR was in the US after Canada. I don't know when it moved to the EU.

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

MR was in the US after Canada. I don't know when it moved to the EU.

Years and years ago.