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Old 06-24-2024, 12:09 PM   #1
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Tolino similarities to Kobo

I've not been praying too much attention to the new Tolino devices and their relationship to the Kobo devices but I'm curious about a few things.

I presume they appear to the host pc as a USB storage device and not an MTP device.

Do they utilize a database on the device like Kobo devices, and where is this database located?

Is the database the same schema as we're used to?

What USB ID do they present to the host?

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Old 06-25-2024, 03:34 AM   #2
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Is the database the same schema as we're used to?
This is only true for the latest models with the "new software".
It's a newer database schema because Tolino is shipping with Firmware 5.0.x, but the general layout it identical to Kobo. E.g. I use the tool October to upload annotations from my Tolino Shine Color to readwise. I have to point the tool manually to the Kobo database (it's located in the Kobo folder, where you'd expect it to be) but then it recognizes the database just fine.

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I presume they appear to the host pc as a USB storage device and not an MTP device.
Yes. No MTP.

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Do they utilize a database on the device like Kobo devices, and where is this database located?
Yes. The file is located at the usual place.

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Is the database the same schema as we're used to?
As rantanplan said, they use an updated schema with firmware 5.x. There are a couple of additional tolino_* tables now. I've attached the schema.

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What USB ID do they present to the host?
I think the USB IDs are identical to the IDs of the Kobo devices. I'm not 100% sure but I think, currently Calibre identifies the new Tolinos as Kobo devices.
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IIRC (I can check later today), Kobo identifies as "Koboreader" and Tolinos as "eReader device".
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IIRC (I can check later today), Kobo identifies as "Koboreader" and Tolinos as "eReader device".
Yes, but think the USB IDs are indeed identical.
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Hmm.. thanks for all that.

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Yes, but think the USB IDs are indeed identical.
You're right.
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IIRC (I can check later today), Kobo identifies as "Koboreader" and Tolinos as "eReader device".
That may be because the 3 new Kobo models have the same USB ID and calibre uses the version file in the .kobo directory to determine the model.
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