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Amazon did much more than "arrange the meetup" if the cost of the book was paid to Amazon. If Amazon took one penny of profit for that sale, then they are the ones who sold you that book. Otherwise, it would be like a physical store (the retailer) selling you fake merchandise, banking their profit for the sale, then telling you to contact the distributor/wholesaler and washing their hands of the matter.
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Yesterday, 07:17 AM | #587 | |
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Yesterday, 03:05 PM | #588 | |
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It certainly looks like Amazon is the one who "sold the book". Just by looking at their actions subsequent. Apparently they made good afterwards, by refunding the price paid. They were no doubt forced to conclude that's what they had to do. Because they were the seller. My point was, Amazon sold the book. It did not "arrange a meetup" between consumers and some shadowy 3rd party seller. Amazon WAS the seller. And because of that, they were the ones on the hook for removing the illegitimate book from people's Kindles and for providing refunds. Which they did. These actions that Amazon took validate that Amazon was indeed the seller. As the seller, Amazon had to provide relief to the true copyright holder. The choice for how to do that appears to be removing the book from people's Kindles (maybe money changed hands behind the scenes as well). But after removing the book from people's Kindles, Amazon - as the seller - had to provide relief to the consumers who had paid Amazon for the book. Apparently Amazon chose to provide this relief by issuing refunds. This was a sticky situation that Amazon got themselves into, not verifying copyright ownership of the book before selling it. But they made their mistake, made their mess, and then had to clean up their mess. I think they did good actually - what else would you expect them to do? I think it might have been a better idea for them to announce the problem to customers first, before removing content from Kindles and blindsiding customers. They tipped their hand at the control they have over your Kindle. And they haven't been completely trusted ever since. But after this ordeal was over, they had hopefully learned a thing or two about selling items. |
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Yesterday, 08:33 PM | #589 | |
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Perhaps you should check out The 2024 Guide to Amazon Fees and Royalties for Kindle eBooks and KDP Print? Please note the per MB delivery fee if your ebook is selling for >$2.99 and <9.99 US and you have selected the 70% royalty plan A 4MB ebook costs $0.60 for delivery. If you select the 35% royalty plan which is forced for books below $2.99 or above $9.99 US, there is no delivery fee but the amount paid to the author is half of what the 70% royalty plan would pay. Depending on the size of the book, the author would select the plan that gives them the most money. So when you buy that $0.99 book, Amazon takes $0.6435 and the author receives $0.3465 while a book priced at $2.99 with a size of 2MB on the 70% plan would have Amazon receive $0.897 plus $0.30 delivery fee so the author would receive $1.793 per sale. |
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Amazon’s power was always clear to many of us. Still I believe that most of their customers give no thought to the possibility of losing access to their purchased Kindle books. Buy, read, forget is the most common situation. |
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Yesterday, 09:00 PM | #591 |
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Oh, so harsh ._. Thanks for sharing!
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Yesterday, 09:04 PM | #592 | |
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I don't recall any news on what happened to the market seller; I assume they absconded with some of the money. So Amazon may be taking a loss on some of the returned sales? How quickly was the infringement noticed, how quickly did Amazon act? |
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Yesterday, 11:31 PM | #593 | |
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I do know that one of my co-workers was very upset with Amazon since they pulled the copy of 1984 from his Kindle disregarding the fact that at that time, 1984 was in the public domain in Canada, Australia and several other countries. Last edited by DNSB; Yesterday at 11:34 PM. |
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