Auto updates

brumasribera · 07-23-2024, 01:45 PM

Hey everyone!

I just wanted to take a moment to give a big shoutout and thank you for the incredible work you’ve all been doing!

With all the exciting new versions rolling out, I thought it might be handy to refine the update process a bit. Maybe we could introduce an option for auto-updates or tweak the current popup to allow automatic download and installation.

What do you all think? Would this make things easier for everyone?

Thanks again for all your hard work and dedication!

Cheers,
Bru

theducks · 07-23-2024, 01:57 PM

[Moved]
Me thinks you should have read the description of Development before posting there.

Then you might want to review topics in the Calibre forum section (where you would see MANY threads on the same request) before posting a Q that has been answered many times. Besides, you might spot something else that might make yor Calibre usage even more fun

Quoth · 07-23-2024, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brumasribera

… Maybe we could introduce an option for auto-updates or tweak the current popup to allow automatic download and installation.

Crowdstrike.

Thunderbird 128 imap errors.

I don't have anything on auto update, if possible. Sooner or later it will mess up.

kovidgoyal · 07-23-2024, 09:43 PM

https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq...tomatic-update

brumasribera · 07-24-2024, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq...tomatic-update

Thank you for your answers.

Well, 5 clicks are enough for most of the users to not spend their time on it, specially for minor upgrades. I've seen so many people with the 'upgrade' displaying on their Chrome when sharing screen, and is only one click away.

If the price of the servers is the inconvenient, why not change the download links to use the ones of GitHub? I believe it should be possible.

BetterRed · 07-24-2024, 06:59 AM

@brumasribera - there are sticky threads for user contributed auto update solutions for Windows, MacOS and Linux in the Related Tools subforum.

BR

Quoth · 07-24-2024, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brumasribera

If the price of the servers is the inconvenient, why not change the download links to use the ones of GitHub? I believe it should be possible.

I think using Github for end user distribution is bad, even though loads of devs do it.

brumasribera · 07-25-2024, 03:30 PM

I just said it would be great to have it integrated like any software does, but I understand it might be a lot of work.

Quoth · 07-25-2024, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brumasribera

I just said it would be great to have it integrated like any software does, but I understand it might be a lot of work.

Lots of SW doesn't and the best SW with autoupdate has it optional.

DNSB · 07-25-2024, 11:47 PM

After my decades in IT, autoupdate is something I avoid like the plague. Too many times, an automatic update ended up with IT having to roll back an update. All too often, this involved having to visit the computers in person as when a Microsoft update disabled the wired NICs on ~1000 computers. The best answer we found was to have a test pod where we installed and tested updates before allowing other computers to download them. Between that and getting acquainted with various sites that tracked issues with updates, it was time consuming but a lot less time consuming than visiting 20 sites and rolling back updates.

ownedbycats · 07-26-2024, 06:43 AM

The International Bluescreen Day last week was due to a faulty Crowdstrike autoupdate.

Comfy.n · 07-26-2024, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

I don't have anything on auto update, if possible. Sooner or later it will mess up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNSB

After my decades in IT, autoupdate is something I avoid like the plague.

Ditto!

Capricorn · 07-27-2024, 05:12 AM

First estimates of the monetary damage done by the Crowdstrike autoupdate:
https://www.neowin.net/news/systems-...ses-worldwide/

No, thank you. No Autoupdate.

07-23-2024, 01:45 PM	#1
brumasribera Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2024 Device: Kindle PW 11	Auto updates Hey everyone! I just wanted to take a moment to give a big shoutout and thank you for the incredible work you’ve all been doing! With all the exciting new versions rolling out, I thought it might be handy to refine the update process a bit. Maybe we could introduce an option for auto-updates or tweak the current popup to allow automatic download and installation. What do you all think? Would this make things easier for everyone? Thanks again for all your hard work and dedication! Cheers, Bru

07-24-2024, 06:59 AM	#6
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,989 Karma: 27620706 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@brumasribera - there are sticky threads for user contributed auto update solutions for Windows, MacOS and Linux in the Related Tools subforum. BR Last edited by BetterRed; 07-24-2024 at 07:24 AM.

07-26-2024, 06:43 AM	#11
ownedbycats Custom User Title Posts: 9,522 Karma: 64500175 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD	The International Bluescreen Day last week was due to a faulty Crowdstrike autoupdate. Last edited by ownedbycats; 07-26-2024 at 06:51 AM.

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theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,441 Karma: 58055868 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	[Moved] Me thinks you should have read the description of Development before posting there. Then you might want to review topics in the Calibre forum section (where you would see MANY threads on the same request) before posting a Q that has been answered many times. Besides, you might spot something else that might make yor Calibre usage even more fun

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kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 44,519 Karma: 24495784 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq...tomatic-update

07-25-2024, 03:30 PM	#8
brumasribera Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2024 Device: Kindle PW 11	I just said it would be great to have it integrated like any software does, but I understand it might be a lot of work.

07-25-2024, 11:47 PM	#10
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 40,449 Karma: 156982136 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	After my decades in IT, autoupdate is something I avoid like the plague. Too many times, an automatic update ended up with IT having to roll back an update. All too often, this involved having to visit the computers in person as when a Microsoft update disabled the wired NICs on ~1000 computers. The best answer we found was to have a test pod where we installed and tested updates before allowing other computers to download them. Between that and getting acquainted with various sites that tracked issues with updates, it was time consuming but a lot less time consuming than visiting 20 sites and rolling back updates.

07-27-2024, 05:12 AM	#13
Capricorn Belgian Pommes Frites Posts: 116 Karma: 532 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Pocketbook Touch HD	First estimates of the monetary damage done by the Crowdstrike autoupdate: https://www.neowin.net/news/systems-...ses-worldwide/ No, thank you. No Autoupdate.