The Vent and Rant Thread

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

Please, if you find, curse him/her...

Oh no, we don't need any MORE interestingness.

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Okay, I really want to known who placed a curse on another to "live in interesting times."

Try the purveyors of the MSM's endless TedDiouSness… even the UK Torygraph is at times unreadable.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Deskisamess

Unless you have a Samsung washer-dryer set that doesn't beep. The only option for an end of cycle noise is a terrible 30 second long musical tone. The set was here when we bought the house in early 2022. It's terrible and no option for just a beep or buzz. I set a timer on my watch.

I take it you have never never visited Japan? Common for walk signals to play a tune called Tōryanse which is used by Japanese children for a version of London Bridge Is Falling Down. The child under arch when the music stops is caught. By extension, as long as the music plays, it's safe to cross the street.

Oddly my Samsung washer also plays a tune as the end of cycle but it does have WiFi. So far it's only been used for firmware updates. No special cycles or anything.

[John F]

I take it you have never never visited Japan? ...

Is that a double negative, as in they have visited Japan?

I think I know what the quote is intended to mean, but I am interested in what the "correct" grammar would be.* I think it should be "never ever".

*No slight is intended.

[BetterRed]

First I discover Elon Musk is following me on Twitter, now I see Rupert Murdoch wearing my blue sneakers in the Oval Office talking to DJT



Good Lord, just noticed he's even wearing my blue socks with grey dots - maybe can I do him for identity theft.

BR

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by John F

Is that a double negative, as in they have visited Japan?

I think I know what the quote is intended to mean, but I am interested in what the "correct" grammar would be.* I think it should be "never ever".

*No slight is intended.

English grammar doesn't follow boolean logic. Repeated negatives are for emphasis.

"never, never" is just an emphatic way to say "never".

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

First I discover Elon Musk is following me on Twitter,

Sounds like you should leave Twitter.

[John F]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

English grammar doesn't follow boolean logic. Repeated negatives are for emphasis.

"never, never" is just an emphatic way to say "never".

I have my doubts?

I can see "I take it you have never, never visited Japan?" as being acceptable.

and

"I take it you have never ever visited Japan?"

But "I take it you have never never visited Japan?" isn't proper grammar. I'm guessing my grammar school teacher would have rapped my knuckles if I used that phrase.

I could be wrong.

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by John F

I have my doubts?

I can see "I take it you have never, never visited Japan?" as being acceptable.

and

"I take it you have never ever visited Japan?"

But "I take it you have never never visited Japan?" isn't proper grammar. I'm guessing my grammar school teacher would have rapped my knuckles if I used that phrase.

I could be wrong.

You're complaining about the comma now? In a message written on MobileRead?

I think you're holding casual posts to too high a standard.

[John F]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

You're complaining about the comma now? In a message written on MobileRead?

I think you're holding casual posts to too high a standard.

I didn't think I was complaining. I was just inter intrested in what proper grammar would be. I've probably even used never never before in a conversation. I just thought it was one of those cute things we slipped on, like vanilla folder, or how irregardless was considered incorrect at one point.

My apologies for asking the question.