Dealing with Kindle ebooks in calibre - Page 78

tamhas · 06-30-2025, 04:50 PM

Once upon a time there was Calibre support for Kindle Collections. And then there wasn't. Is this some inherent problem which will never be solved. Collections are far from a great tool, but could provide useful information if supported.

theducks · 06-30-2025, 05:27 PM

Amazon made collections (db) inaccessible.

Solution: Buy a Kobo

JSWolf · 07-01-2025, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tamhas

Once upon a time there was Calibre support for Kindle Collections. And then there wasn't. Is this some inherent problem which will never be solved. Collections are far from a great tool, but could provide useful information if supported.

Back when Amazon allowed access to the database, too many people deleted it and then contacted Amazon for support. Amazon did not like this so they made the database inaccessible.

You have the people who played games with their early Kindle's to blame.

tamhas · 07-01-2025, 12:34 PM

Oh well ... Collections could use some help, but I guess not this way.

Sirtel · 07-01-2025, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tamhas

Oh well ... Collections could use some help, but I guess not this way.

Calibre can manage collections (and lots of other things) on Kobos and Pocketbooks, but not on Kindles and Nooks with their closed OS.

Sirtel · 07-03-2025, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

If I actually believed that Amazon is not already watching the various DeDRM GitHub sites, I might worry about posting links.

It's not that. I'm sure Amazon is aware of Sats' Github site. I meant that the more attention and more traffic the site gets, the more people there are who try Sats' method and the more likely it is that Amazon will do something about said method. And public links do generate more attention.

lkmiller · 07-03-2025, 12:56 PM

Amazon has definitely already responded to Sats' method by not allowing Kindle for PC to download the tougher DRM books any more. Not saying they won't do more, but short of getting rid of Kindle for PC altogether I'm not sure what.

Sirtel · 07-03-2025, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lkmiller

Amazon has definitely already responded to Sats' method by not allowing Kindle for PC to download the tougher DRM books any more. Not saying they won't do more, but short of getting rid of Kindle for PC altogether I'm not sure what.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did that. They could just say "Use our Cloud Reader".

I'm no longer really surprised by anything Amazon does, unfortunately.

lkmiller · 07-03-2025, 04:04 PM

Yes, I agree. B&N dropped their desktop programs years ago. Not many probably use Kindle for PC to actually read books. Most people undoubtedly use the mobile apps.

odamizu · Yesterday, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lkmiller

Amazon has definitely already responded to Sats' method by not allowing Kindle for PC to download the tougher DRM books any more. Not saying they won't do more, but short of getting rid of Kindle for PC altogether I'm not sure what.

They could come up with tougher DRM, like Kindle for Mac.

lkmiller · Yesterday, 07:42 AM

Sats method for Kindle for PC still doesn't actually decrypt the current Kindle for PC keys. It works around that little issue. So all they could do to protect the tougher DRM books was to prevent them from downloading.

odamizu · Today, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

If you want to post a public link, you're of course free to do so.

What I want is for these incessant posts about PMs to stop.

ETA: Thank you @pdurrant for deleting the PM posts.

issybird · Today, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

What I want is for these incessant posts about PMs to stop.

You’re the OP; you get to ask that people stay on topic, which posts asking for a PM are not.

So. I’m putting posters on notice to stop asking for PMs. It’s not too much to ask that newbies read the thread and comply. I’ll keep an eye on the thread and delete posts in violation; posts can also be reported.

I’m going to soapbox a bit and say that a point of a forum is the public conversation. While some conversations need to be private for various reasons, making a display of them gets in the way of the public discourse.

odamizu · Today, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

You’re the OP; you get to ask that people stay on topic, which posts asking for a PM are not.

So. I’m putting posters on notice to stop asking for PMs. It’s not too much to ask that newbies read the thread and comply. I’ll keep an eye on the thread and delete posts in violation; posts can also be reported.

I’m going to soapbox a bit and say that a point of a forum is the public conversation. While some conversations need to be private for various reasons, making a display of them gets in the way of the public discourse.

@issybird

To users thinking about posting a PM request, @issybird is a moderator. That's what the green means. So take the above notice seriously.

If you are really incapable of searching out the information yourself, PM @Sirtel (or whoever) directly. Do NOT post your request for a PM in this thread.

If your PMs are turned off, you can request that they be turned on here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=319819

pdurrant · Today, 03:45 PM

Approximately 40 posts deleted that were PM requests or discussion of same.

06-30-2025, 04:50 PM	#1156
tamhas Zealot Posts: 140 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Collections Once upon a time there was Calibre support for Kindle Collections. And then there wasn't. Is this some inherent problem which will never be solved. Collections are far from a great tool, but could provide useful information if supported.

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theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,016 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Amazon made collections (db) inaccessible. Solution: Buy a Kobo

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tamhas Zealot Posts: 140 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Oh well ... Collections could use some help, but I guess not this way.

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lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,521 Karma: 23000030 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	Amazon has definitely already responded to Sats' method by not allowing Kindle for PC to download the tougher DRM books any more. Not saying they won't do more, but short of getting rid of Kindle for PC altogether I'm not sure what.

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lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,521 Karma: 23000030 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	Yes, I agree. B&N dropped their desktop programs years ago. Not many probably use Kindle for PC to actually read books. Most people undoubtedly use the mobile apps.

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lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,521 Karma: 23000030 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	Sats method for Kindle for PC still doesn't actually decrypt the current Kindle for PC keys. It works around that little issue. So all they could do to protect the tougher DRM books was to prevent them from downloading.

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pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,901 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	Approximately 40 posts deleted that were PM requests or discussion of same.