Does hyphenation work or not? - Page 4

JSWolf · 06-19-2024, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jane Eyre

Yes, of course!

Thanks!

dan980 · 08-12-2024, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Thanks!

I would test it too, if you’d be so kind

ps67 · Today, 02:00 AM

The first thing to check when we see an incorrect hyphenation is to check if the language in the ebook is set correctly. Calibre tells you what the language of the file is. Sometimes I have found books written in Italian with English set as the language. I'll let you imagine how they were hyphenated.

You can also find the language by opening the file in the calibre editor or with Sigil and in the content.opf file you can find <dc:language>it</dc:language> or <dc:language>it-IT</dc:language>.

Quoth · Today, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ps67

You can also find the language by opening the file in the calibre editor or with Sigil and in the content.opf file you can find <dc:language>it</dc:language> or <dc:language>it-IT</dc:language>.

The recommendation is <html lang="en">, for example, for each entire file rather than body.

Parts of a book file can be in a different language. These should be enclosed in a div p or span, depending if several paragraphs, one paragraph or part of a paragraph. So if a character speaks in in Irish in an English book, just the dialogue might be tagged
"<span lang="ga">some Irish</span>" she said.
This is important not just for hyphenation but also for TTS. Sadly I've seen ebooks where they didn't bother.
A spelling check in Calibre in language of ebook should reveal alternate language parts without tangs.

ps67 · Today, 03:32 PM

It is right. Of course the books with strange hyphenation I have seen did not have <html lang="it"> at the beginning of each file. Sometimes there was nothing or sometimes there was <html lang="en">.

DrChiper · Today, 04:54 PM

When I just grab any ebook, I might see in certain files:

Code:

toc.ncx     --> xml:lang="en-US"
content.opf --> <dc:language>en</dc:language>
nav.xhtml   --> xml:lang="en"
*.xhtml     --> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:epub="http://www.idpf.org/2007/ops" xml:lang="en">

I have always wondered which language setting is really used and which ones are superfluous?

Quoth · Today, 06:44 PM

The most important one is the per file, and any alternate language in the file needs local lang property in whatever tags are appropriate (add extra span ii the language change is within a tag).

I'd imagine the system pop-up index needs the system level statements for hyphenation and TTS.

Today, 04:54 PM	#51
DrChiper Bookish Posts: 941 Karma: 1803094 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: PC, t1, t2, t3, aura 2 v1, clara HD, Libra 2, Libra Color, Nxtpaper 11	When I just grab any ebook, I might see in certain files: Code: toc.ncx --> xml:lang="en-US" content.opf --> <dc:language>en</dc:language> nav.xhtml --> xml:lang="en" *.xhtml --> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:epub="http://www.idpf.org/2007/ops" xml:lang="en"> I have always wondered which language setting is really used and which ones are superfluous?

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ps67 Guru Posts: 737 Karma: 7025494 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Italy Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Elipsa, Pocketbook Color PB633, Inkpad Color	The first thing to check when we see an incorrect hyphenation is to check if the language in the ebook is set correctly. Calibre tells you what the language of the file is. Sometimes I have found books written in Italian with English set as the language. I'll let you imagine how they were hyphenated. You can also find the language by opening the file in the calibre editor or with Sigil and in the content.opf file you can find <dc:language>it</dc:language> or <dc:language>it-IT</dc:language>.

Today, 03:32 PM	#50
ps67 Guru Posts: 737 Karma: 7025494 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Italy Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Elipsa, Pocketbook Color PB633, Inkpad Color	It is right. Of course the books with strange hyphenation I have seen did not have <html lang="it"> at the beginning of each file. Sometimes there was nothing or sometimes there was <html lang="en">.

Today, 06:44 PM	#52
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 12,171 Karma: 89201339 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	The most important one is the per file, and any alternate language in the file needs local lang property in whatever tags are appropriate (add extra span ii the language change is within a tag). I'd imagine the system pop-up index needs the system level statements for hyphenation and TTS.