kindle dx upgrade options? (>9" eink)

[paperwastage]

Been out of the market for a while, not sure if there's some updated resource/wiki available?

Otherwise, I'm happy to do my own research and update it on the wiki/this page


Requirements:
>9" eink screen

Optional:
touch (finger and/or stylus)
backlight
(opensource/modifiable OS/android)
connectivity (wifi/bluetooth/OTG USB)



Available:
Sony DPT-S1 13.3" (too many drawbacks)
Onyx Boox M96/M92 9.7" (I would prefer the N96 below)
Onyx Boox N96 9.7" (regular model has finger+stylus but no backlight. ML model has backlight but no finger touch)

Preorder/Manufacture:
Onyx Boox Max 13.3"
Icarus A4 13.3" ???
Goodereader 13.3" (low ram, not backed by major manufacturer)
PocketBook CAD 13.3" ???



Am I missing anything? Will read up on those options above

[xxtraloud]

I am also interested in this, my DX is so unreliable with 2 columns pdf, and battery life is horrible after so many years. Not sure I want to invest time/money on something so slow and old.

I think a 8" would also be ok, but these prices $300+ are so ridiculous.

[paperwastage]

Originally Posted by xxtraloud

I am also interested in this, my DX is so unreliable with 2 columns pdf, and battery life is horrible after so many years. Not sure I want to invest time/money on something so slow and old.

I think a 8" would also be ok, but these prices $300+ are so ridiculous.

http://www.the-ebook-reader.com/larg...k-readers.html

this is the closest resource I can find, that lists large eink


there are 8" 250dpi (1600x1200) available (versus kindle DX 9.7" 150dpi), but not sure I want to go smaller when reading (non-reflowable) PDFs


technology for larger eInk screens is still stuck at pearl/mobius 160-250dpi... sigh

[xxtraloud]

Nice link, but it's missing the cybook ocean which looks like a good alternative. In any case $200 is still too much, I can get a very nice and fast tablet for that money.

Originally Posted by paperwastage

http://www.the-ebook-reader.com/larg...k-readers.html

this is the closest resource I can find, that lists large eink


there are 8" 250dpi (1600x1200) available (versus kindle DX 9.7" 150dpi), but not sure I want to go smaller when reading (non-reflowable) PDFs


technology for larger eInk screens is still stuck at pearl/mobius 160-250dpi... sigh

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by xxtraloud

Nice link, but it's missing the cybook ocean which looks like a good alternative. In any case $200 is still too much, I can get a very nice and fast tablet for that money.

A tablet will always be better for pdf. Especially since it does support color and is much faster with scrolling/zooming. Only downsides would be battery life and readability outdoors. If a tablet is a feasible option, you shouldn't discard it only because it is not a dedicated reader. Distractions from reading? That is not the devices fault, but your own. Put tablet in airplane mode with notifications turned off and there won't be any.

[xxtraloud]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

A tablet will always be better for pdf. Especially since it does support color and is much faster with scrolling/zooming. Only downsides would be battery life and readability outdoors. If a tablet is a feasible option, you shouldn't discard it only because it is not a dedicated reader. Distractions from reading? That is not the devices fault, but your own. Put tablet in airplane mode with notifications turned off and there won't be any.

All true, but you forget the biggest selling point for me, the screen. I work all day on a computer and when I read I find e-ink very relaxing for my eyes. A tablet doesn't offer anything better than my laptop rather than portability.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by xxtraloud

All true, but you forget the biggest selling point for me, the screen. I work all day on a computer and when I read I find e-ink very relaxing for my eyes. A tablet doesn't offer anything better than my laptop rather than portability.

Ok...so why are you comparing the price of an e-ink reader to the price of an LCD tablet if you aren't interested in buying a device with an LCD screen? If cost is a concern, then you should be comparing the price *only* among the devices you're interested in...not the ones that you're not. If I'm looking to buy a small hybrid vehicle because I'm concerned about gas mileage, I don't include big trucks in my comparison because they're more versatile...I *only* include vehicles that meet the criteria that I'm looking for.

Shari

[xxtraloud]

Originally Posted by shalym

Ok...so why are you comparing the price of an e-ink reader to the price of an LCD tablet if you aren't interested in buying a device with an LCD screen? If cost is a concern, then you should be comparing the price *only* among the devices you're interested in...not the ones that you're not. If I'm looking to buy a small hybrid vehicle because I'm concerned about gas mileage, I don't include big trucks in my comparison because they're more versatile...I *only* include vehicles that meet the criteria that I'm looking for.

Shari

And why do you waste your and my time to write such a pointless post?

[shalym]

Originally Posted by xxtraloud

And why do you waste your and my time to write such a pointless post?

Why is it pointless? I'm truly curious as to why you are including LCD tablets in your price comparison if you're not interested in buying one.

Shari

[paperwastage]

got myself a Onyx N96ML

definitely nicer than Kindle DX Graphite
- backlight, more options like adjusting contrast/A2 mode, screen doesn't need to refresh every page even on non-A2 mode unlike DXG

with drawbacks
- ML = backlight, but no finger touch...
- annoying to have to use stylus to navigate - though can flip pages with backward/forward hardware button
- software is buggy... the pages reset often on this particular epub I'm reading, not sure why

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by paperwastage

got myself a Onyx N96ML

definitely nicer than Kindle DX Graphite
- backlight, more options like adjusting contrast/A2 mode, screen doesn't need to refresh every page even on non-A2 mode unlike DXG

with drawbacks
- ML = backlight, but no finger touch...
- annoying to have to use stylus to navigate - though can flip pages with backward/forward hardware button
- software is buggy... the pages reset often on this particular epub I'm reading, not sure why

That's the one I'm considering, as well.

Two questions, please:

1) When the pages reset, do you mean that you go back to the beginning of the book, to the first chapter?

2) A number of owners say that the front light [no eInk reader has a back light] is not very strong. Could you test this in a normally lit room, rather than in a completely dark area?

Thank you.

[paperwastage]

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

That's the one I'm considering, as well.

Two questions, please:

1) When the pages reset, do you mean that you go back to the beginning of the book, to the first chapter?

2) A number of owners say that the front light [no eInk reader has a back light] is not very strong. Could you test this in a normally lit room, rather than in a completely dark area?

Thank you.

1) was using the "EPUB with images" from here
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1184

i was jumping around chapters, it seemed to go back to the last page I read before jumping. should do a hard reset and try again

2) only own a kindle DX Graphite, can't tell you if it's bright or not. seems fine to me, good upgrade from DXG.
can go compare with a kindle paperwhite at a staples store



let me see if I can put together a video, probably during weekend.

[Dr. Drib]

A video would be great.

Thank you!

[paperwastage]

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

A video would be great.

Thank you!

anything particular you want to see? sample pdfs?

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by paperwastage

anything particular you want to see? sample pdfs?

Mainly how it looks in an 'average' living room setting with lights and with the front light on. (The problem I face with my Kindle DX-G is that I have to sit very close to a light source in the morning while I'm reading.)

Secondarily, how an epub looks on it and then how a mobi file looks.

Anything else you would care to show is greatly appreciated.

I love the large screen on my Kindle DX-G. I just wish it had a front light.

Did you buy yours from Amazon?

Thank you again for your thoughts and experiences on your NEW N96ml.