Amazon removed books from my Kindle

[paperwhite13]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

That's easy. Buy a Kobo Reader instead of a Kindle.

I was asking what to do now that you have a Kindle with which Amazon maybe occasionally interferes, not one should do (I bought mine knowing beforehand I'd jailbreak it, do you think there's something wrong with that?)

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by paperwhite13

I was asking what to do now that you have a Kindle with which Amazon maybe occasionally interferes, not one should do (I bought mine knowing beforehand I'd jailbreak it, do you think there's something wrong with that?)

Buy a Kobo. That's what to do.

[paperwhite13]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Buy a Kobo. That's what to do.

I say one isn't enough, buy ten.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by paperwhite13

So, my original question was for the people who already know this can happen--you know this can happen, you know you can prevent it, why is it a big deal?

Because
1. No one should mess with my personal content on my personal device, in principle
2. It would be bothersome in some circumstances where you do want to switch wifi on.

Personally I'm not sure if the whole issue is enough to never make me buy another Kindle or not, but it sure is a strong reason to think twice before doing so. I'm not interested in jailbreaking and I don't want to use KOReader (yes, I've tried it; it has a couple of serious flaws that make it very unattractive for me), so the only reason I'd buy a Kindle again would be some stellar hardware that trumps anything competitors offer. We'll see.

[paperwhite13]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Because
1. No one should mess with my personal content on my personal device, in principle
2. It would be bothersome in some circumstances where you do want to switch wifi on.

Personally I'm not sure if the whole issue is enough to never make me buy another Kindle or not, but it sure is a strong reason to think twice before doing so. I'm not interested in jailbreaking and I don't want to use KOReader (yes, I've tried it; it has a couple of serious flaws that make it very unattractive for me), so the only reason I'd buy a Kindle again would be some stellar hardware that trumps anything competitors offer. We'll see.

I agree with both points and I'm not making a point for anyone who doesn't own a Kindle to buy one--or another one, far from it. I just meant that as far as I'm concerned, these issues are easily solvable--less so if jailbreaking, or using KOReader, or staying offline aren't options. For me, the Kindle was cheap, good hardware, coupled with stellar software (KOReader), and jailbreaking was in the cards from the get go.

[Sirtel]

For me, the biggest worry is if they have started to delete sideloaded content, what's next? Disable sideloading altogether? Only allow send-to-kindle? Now that would really be a dealbreaker for me. I don't want to spend my time worrying that a simple software update might render my Kindle unusable for me. Yes, I know... keep it offline, always. But I'd still worry.

For clarification, I don't use a Kindle at the moment at all. All these issues just might make me think long and hard before buying another one in the future. I don't like the way Amazon seems to be going recently. At all.

[jlinear]

Originally Posted by paperwhite13

I just meant that as far as I'm concerned, these issues are easily solvable--less so if jailbreaking, or using KOReader, or staying offline aren't options. For me, the Kindle was cheap, good hardware, coupled with stellar software (KOReader), and jailbreaking was in the cards from the get go.

Pretty much the same conclusion I came to. Amazon deleted files from both my Scribe and my 11th gen Paperwhite. I solved the issue by selling my Scribe which could not be jailbroken. And keeping my Paperwhite which could. And I did. I also like KOReader and use it on both my Paperwhite and Kobos.

[JBaby]

Originally Posted by paperwhite13

So, my original question was for the people who already know this can happen--you know this can happen, you know you can prevent it, why is it a big deal?

For me it’s not a big deal at all. I rarely ever have wifi off. But even if this did happen and I wasn’t home I’d just put the book back using my iPad if I had it with me. If not I’ll read an official Kindle book. I use Bookly so I always know what page I’m on. I rarely take notes, but when I happen to do so I do it in Bookly. I don’t highlight in sideloaded books because I’m going to delete the books after I finish reading. Whatever highlighting I’d want to add I’d as a quote to Bookly. This is a “meh” issue for me.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by JBaby

For me it’s not a big deal at all. I rarely ever have wifi off. But even if this did happen and I wasn’t home I’d just put the book back using my iPad if I had it with me. If not I’ll read an official Kindle book. I use Bookly so I always know what page I’m on. I rarely take notes, but when I happen to do so I do it in Bookly. I don’t highlight in sideloaded books because I’m going to delete the books after I finish reading. Whatever highlighting I’d want to add I’d as a quote to Bookly. This is a “meh” issue for me.

If you were to give up Bookly and use StoryGraph, you'd get most of the same functionality and you'd have the advantage of the app and a website. So if you didn't have access to the app but did have access to the web, you'd have access to your reading and could update as you want. I think the only thing missing is the notes feature of Bookly. After having a look at Bookly, I'd stick with StoryGraph given it's advantage of the website. Also, with StoryGraph, you can participate in the MR reading challenge.

You could update both Bookly and StoryGraph until you decide to drop Bookly.

[TheSmitty]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you were to give up Bookly and use StoryGraph, you'd get most of the same functionality and you'd have the advantage of the app and a website. So if you didn't have access to the app but did have access to the web, you'd have access to your reading and could update as you want. I think the only thing missing is the notes feature of Bookly. After having a look at Bookly, I'd stick with StoryGraph given it's advantage of the website. Also, with StoryGraph, you can participate in the MR reading challenge.

You could update both Bookly and StoryGraph until you decide to drop Bookly.

I use goodreads still. I also have things going in StoryGraph but the UI is such a hot mess in trying to find out where and how to do things. It is a guess game each time I use it. I have not heard of Bookly, may have to look into it just for kicks.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by TheSmitty

I use goodreads still. I also have things going in StoryGraph but the UI is such a hot mess in trying to find out where and how to do things. It is a guess game each time I use it. I have not heard of Bookly, may have to look into it just for kicks.

Bookly is just an app. Because there is no website, you have to put all of your data on your phone or tablet.

[paperwhite13]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

. I think the only thing missing is the notes feature of Bookly.

I've only spent a little time with StoryGraph, but is the Reading Journal feature that different from Bookly's notes?

[JBaby]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you were to give up Bookly and use StoryGraph, you'd get most of the same functionality and you'd have the advantage of the app and a website. So if you didn't have access to the app but did have access to the web, you'd have access to your reading and could update as you want. I think the only thing missing is the notes feature of Bookly. After having a look at Bookly, I'd stick with StoryGraph given it's advantage of the website. Also, with StoryGraph, you can participate in the MR reading challenge.

You could update both Bookly and StoryGraph until you decide to drop Bookly.

No thanks. I don’t like SG. I like having more control. SG still doesn’t have all of my books. And I’m not doing free labor for their site. Certainly not when GR has all my books. Also, I have a reading spreadsheet so SG’s graphs hold no appeal. Finally I’m an old school Bookly user so I got lifetime Pro back when it was $6.

Originally Posted by TheSmitty

I use goodreads still. I also have things going in StoryGraph but the UI is such a hot mess in trying to find out where and how to do things. It is a guess game each time I use it. I have not heard of Bookly, may have to look into it just for kicks.

Me too. I’m a Kindle user so I see no point in moving away from GR. GR has the books. SG is still lacking in that area for me. I think it’s a hot mess too. I use Bookly for the infographics. Also, I like knowing how long it takes me to read. I’m weird like that.

[kbullet]

It is quite frustrating now, when reconnecting to wifi after 1-2+ weeks of being offline all the side loaded books are gone again . My initial suspicion might have something to do with the collection being synced. But on my latest test all books gets wiped whether they're in a collection or not.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by paperwhite13

I've only spent a little time with StoryGraph, but is the Reading Journal feature that different from Bookly's notes?

I'm not sure. But you can add your own notes. So maybe that would do.

I like Storygraph better because I'm not limited to an app on my phone. I can use the iPhone app or the website. Plus. I really like the reading challenges feature of Storygraph. Bookly may be good, but it's not good enough.