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View Poll Results: For an E-Paper Tablet I could type on with an external keyboard, I would pay: | |||
$500 | 2 | 4.26% | |
$300 | 12 | 25.53% | |
$200 | 13 | 27.66% | |
$150 | 20 | 42.55% | |
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll |
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11-29-2011, 09:21 PM | #16 |
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If you can make an eink device that is comfortable to type on from many positions, folds to the size of a kindle3 and does not flicker when typing characters, that would be really nice and I would buy one.
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11-29-2011, 09:30 PM | #17 |
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I already paid $300 (in Canada) for a Pocketbook 302 that PROMISED this feature - over a year later, they still haven't come through.
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11-30-2011, 03:34 AM | #18 | |
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Why the hell can't B&N and Amazon do this? |
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11-30-2011, 03:47 AM | #19 |
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I think this project is a little too late. The first Mirasol and color e-ink devices are coming out now. Then this would be obsolete in a year, at most. Besides, 6" just wouldn't be big enough. Size wise the 8" DR800 was still the best, most versatile.
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11-30-2011, 07:05 AM | #20 |
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Hi,
Thanks, everyone, for your many replies and suggestions! My responses are in order below. In post #11, shark_scott raised the consideration of a larger screen size. I responded to it at length and expanded further in the next post about Specifications, and wonder what you think. I made some changes to the original post to reflect all your suggestions and comments. I kept the feature list compatible with Strategy #1: Hack Hardware. "Noted" in the following responses means your suggestion is in the new Specifications list. The list is in following post. These specs are more for if we resurrect the Crystalfontz device or make a new one from scratch (Strategies #2 and 3). Responses: 2. @beachwanderer 1) You are right, the device’s configuration was not clear. By touch-typable, I did not mean it would have its own built-in keyboard, just that it can work with an external keyboard 2) I have not seen what the Cybook Odyssey can do yet. I will check it out. Thanks for the links. 3. @teh603 (1,2,3) OS-on-removable-flash, multi-bootable ROM BIOS/EFI, bootable USB port: all these ideas make sense to me. Noted. Thank you for such details! (4) I only planned on supporting USB external keyboards (including folding ones) out of the box. My reasons are in my "plea"; see link at end of my original post). Presumably someone could make what you suggested for bluetooth users. 4. @kamizase I stopped waiting for Pocketbook, a company I view as unreliable, a year ago. PB was actually the addressee of my "plea"; see link at end of my original post. 5. @Belfaborac Thanks for your big vote and your ideas. Your seconding of a bootable USB port and especially OS-on-removable-flash; and your suggestion of an accessible and widely available battery all make sense to me. Noted. 6. @murraypaul Thank you for helping me sharpen my argument (see Ergonomic Rationale in original post). 7. @Sil_liS Please see my reply to kamizase, #4 above 8. @mbovenka Your seconding of Belfaborac’s battery suggestions, #5 above, noted. Thank you for your specific battery suggestions. 9. @Hellmark I love the idea of hacking existing devices. Once rooted, can the Sony or Nook host, or be made to host, a USB external keyboard? That's interesting about using it as a terminal through the serial port. I would like the device to be useful to IT professionals like you, so I'm noting the idea. Thank you. 10. @Namekuseijin I agree. It is the worst idea ever--for achieving future market dominance and making a killing. But not for serving the present needs of the few and making a living. Which is my goal. 11. @shark_scott I sympathize with the strange situation of scholars with respect to textbooks and e-paper devices. A 9.7” device with reference manager compatibility and full PDF functionality for academia makes perfect sense to me. Noted. I have leaned toward a smaller device for the first generation round. But if we build the device from scratch (vs hacking an existing device), then I think 9.7” is worth consideration as a first device. It could also become the primary monitor for desktops and laptops. Myself, I like the 7” size of the sadly discontinued Sony Daily. It had XGA (1024x768) resolution, which is the standard size for the web and just wide enough to display full-width PDFs in landscape. 6” is good for the reflowable text of e-books--and not much else. What do others have to say about the screen size? 13. @The Terminator No, your vote was correct. $150 is a possible retail price. 14. @thebestjeter Your second of shark_scott's idea noted. Please see my response to him, #11 above. 15. @JSWolf It's true. But please see my response to Hellmark, #9 above. 16. @Giggleton Very cool. However, I was not clear about the configuration. Please see my response to beachwanderer, #2 above. 17. @guyanonymous Yeah, I remember. I felt luck to not be materially involved. Please see my response to kamizase, #4 above. 19. @HansTWN Please see my response to Namekuseijin, #10 above, and my edits of the Ergonomics section. I agree with you about 6". Please see what I wrote in post #21 below in the specs. Sincerely, Andrew Last edited by andrewed; 11-30-2011 at 07:14 AM. |
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11-30-2011, 07:09 AM | #21 |
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(This is in case we design device from scratch rather than hack it.)
SPECIFICATIONS OS on removable microSD flash card ROM BIOS/EFI/UEFI with Bootable USB Battery - Removable - Widely available for easy replacement - Nokia BL-4C or BL-5C phone battery - AA Serial port for use as terminal SIZE QUESTION 9.7” (for academics and extra monitor) - Usual hardware deficiencies in existing models - Special software requirements: - Reference manager (Zotero and/or Mendeley) - Good PDF functionality (unlike Kindle DX) 7" instead of 6”(like Sony Daily) - 1024x768 (XGA) resolution @ 160 dpi - standard resolution for web - displays full-width of PDFs in landscape mode - 6” - fine for reflowable text of e-books, but not essential for that purpose - too small to display web or PDFs - too big to fit in your pocket - so what is advantage of 6"? 5” future pocket/wallet size |
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11-30-2011, 05:05 PM | #23 |
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Perhaps I'm a bit dense, but I don't get what you want to actually *do* with this device. Presumably more than reading documents, since existing e-ink devices do that just fine. Are you hoping to use it for production of text documents? Is this for writing the next great american novel, or just for doing the shopping list? What are the use cases?
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11-30-2011, 10:14 PM | #24 | |
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I really, really wish that what I said were incorrect. While LED light is constant [EDIT: not true. See post #44] and has improved the viewability of computer screens, backlighting is separate from the display itself and the actions of its pixels. Regrettably, LCD pixels do turn on and off that often. The refresh rate (60-90Hz) refers to the display, not the backlight. It is what makes LCD capable of both showing quickly moving images and irritating to the eye. [EDIT: I was incorrect about all this. See post #44] I appreciate that it is difficult to understand, because it is so simple, so basic a need: just to read and write in response, in real time. Notes, essays, letters (which is how I think about email), and comments. You name it, I don't want to do it on LCD anymore. Andrew Last edited by andrewed; 01-06-2012 at 11:20 PM. Reason: added response to Baldrake, correction to response to HarryT |
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12-01-2011, 01:38 AM | #25 | |
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12-01-2011, 08:40 AM | #26 |
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I would suggest a Bluetooth connection for a keyboard. An e-reader has to be fairly small to be practical. You can get small external keyboards that use BT to communicate with a host. Don't know if the processing power is there, but with voice recognition it would be an awesome device.
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12-01-2011, 09:27 AM | #28 |
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They seem to be out of stock.
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12-01-2011, 11:28 AM | #29 |
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For the people who are going "oh, this is going to be obsolete", well, it is for more of a niche market. If you're just typing, you really don't need color. If you're using it for remote terminal access, or SSH, you don't need color. There are lots of things that do not require color or fast animation. If those were requirements, we wouldn't have so many eInk devices.
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