Paperwhite 5 or Libra 2?

[troubledMan]

As I've already read here, for different interests, different priorities. In my case, as a Spanish perpetual English learner (as it's obvious for anyone who reads this), one of my priorities is the quality of dictionaries available for the device. In my opinion, Kindle's dictionaries are better than Kobo's.
AFAIK, other thing that I would miss in a Kobo is the flashcard system built into a Kindle.

Anyway, I wish my Voyage will last forever...

[LessPaul]

There tends to be a bias toward Kobo devices, especially on Reddit, due to anti-Amazon sentiments. With that set aside, the comparison of the actual hardware really comes down to individual preferences.
The deciding factors that led me to choose the new Paperwhite:
- better selection of translation dictionaries
- the ability to translate an entire selected section of text
- much lower (Prime Day) price
- Whispersync between Kindle and Audible book “partners”

If I were not a language learner, I would have more strongly considered the Libre 2 due to the ability to manage large book collections via Calibre, hardware buttons, and for the 90/180 degree screen rotation.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by LessPaul

There tends to be a bias toward Kobo devices, especially on Reddit, due to anti-Amazon sentiments. With that set aside, the comparison of the actual hardware really comes down to individual preferences.

There's also the faster processor, which in reviews at least makes the Paperwhite look much faster.

And, I like the page turn animation.

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

And, I like the page turn animation.

I love things like page turn animations. I always admire how well they have been done. Whether they are swipes, page curls or something else. They are beautiful to look at. But, the joy in seeing them fades very quickly and I turn them off before the end of the day.

[LessPaul]

Originally Posted by davidfor

I love things like page turn animations. I always admire how well they have been done. Whether they are swipes, page curls or something else. They are beautiful to look at. But, the joy in seeing them fades very quickly and I turn them off before the end of the day.

I had absolutely no interest in the page turn animations, at least as a buying decision. But of course I gave it a try anyway.

I found out I love it, but not for the intended reasons. Now, if I accidentally flip a page, I can see which direction I flipped it, and can quickly return.

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by LessPaul

if I accidentally flip a page, I can see which direction I flipped it, and can quickly return.

For me, this is an unexpected extra reason to love buttons - VERY hard to accidentally press a button an not know in which direction it took one.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by davidfor

I love things like page turn animations. I always admire how well they have been done. Whether they are swipes, page curls or something else. They are beautiful to look at. But, the joy in seeing them fades very quickly and I turn them off before the end of the day.

For me, it's a little different. When reading comics on my Android tablet, I turn off page turn animations. I don't need the skeuomorphism.

But on the new Paperwhite (and even some older readers) the page turn can be so fast you don't realize the page has turned (one page of text looks like another at a glance). The animation used on the Kindle is subtle, but noticeable.

Also, I wonder if it helps reduce ghosting even further (not that ghosting is much of an issue any longer).

[ZodWallop]

Having said all this, I still prefer Kobo over Kindle. It meshes better with the way I like to handle my reader.

But I think Amazon really created something nice for the price in the current Paperwhite. It deserves some praise, even if it wouldn't work well for me.

[Sirtel]

As I always set the full refresh for every page, animations and anything else related to page turning doesn't play a part in my purchase decisions.

I too prefer Kobos to Kindles at this point. Yeah, the Oasis is fast, but both the Sage and the Libra 2 have better screens, plus of course better software. That said, if Amazon should slap the newest Carta screen on the next Oasis, I'll certainly take a look, especially if they also enlarge the screen a bit.

Buttonless Paperwhites are out of the question for me, no matter how cheap or how good.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

...if Amazon should slap the newest Carta screen on the next Oasis, I'll certainly take a look...

That's (almost) a certainty. I couldn't imagine they would release their premium Oasis 4 and not put the newer screen in it.

...especially if they also enlarge the screen a bit.

That would make sense given the Paperwhite's larger screen.

[cgsmom]

Originally Posted by Uncle Robin

For me, this is an unexpected extra reason to love buttons - VERY hard to accidentally press a button an not know in which direction it took one.

I agree. That's why I chose the Oasis over the PW5 at the Prime Day price.

[mbrisco]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

As I always set the full refresh for every page, animations and anything else related to page turning doesn't play a part in my purchase decisions.

I too prefer Kobos to Kindles at this point. Yeah, the Oasis is fast, but both the Sage and the Libra 2 have better screens, plus of course better software. That said, if Amazon should slap the newest Carta screen on the next Oasis, I'll certainly take a look, especially if they also enlarge the screen a bit.

Buttonless Paperwhites are out of the question for me, no matter how cheap or how good.

Why would you full refresh every page? With the new page turn animation, Kindle removes the need to ever do a full page refresh. It doesn't happen at all, and there's little to no residue. Full page refresh is like 2012 e-ink life

[Uncle Robin]

Originally Posted by mbrisco

Why would you full refresh every page? With the new page turn animation, Kindle removes the need to ever do a full page refresh.

By effectively doing one anyway. It comes down to personal choice - a skeuomorphic animation for those who desperately want to pretend they're reading a paper book, or a full page refresh. The end result is the same.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by mbrisco

Why would you full refresh every page? With the new page turn animation, Kindle removes the need to ever do a full page refresh. It doesn't happen at all, and there's little to no residue. Full page refresh is like 2012 e-ink life

Not because of residue, but because the text quality degrades over time without full refresh. Most people seem not to notice it, but I do and it bothers me exceedingly. No, I don't mean ghosting. The darkness of the font lessens, the text grows paler. The change is slight, but I notice it immediately. Funny thing is, almost no one else seems to see this. But I've seen it on every eink reader I've ever owned.

[Quoth]

My page turn animation is "full refresh".