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The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency (No. 1 in the Series) by Alexander McCall Smith | 5 | 6.41% | |
A Study in Scarlet by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle | 7 | 8.97% | |
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson | 12 | 15.38% | |
The Chinese Maze Murders by Robert van Gulik (1st Judge Dee mystery by van Gulik) | 21 | 26.92% | |
The Moonstone by Wilkie Collins | 6 | 7.69% | |
The Book of Fate by Brad Meltzer | 3 | 3.85% | |
Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie | 7 | 8.97% | |
Bruno, Chief of Police: A Novel Of The French Countryside by Martin Walker | 3 | 3.85% | |
Ghost Story: A Novel of the Dresden Files (The Dresden Files, Book #13) by Jim Butcher | 0 | 0% | |
Storm Front (The Dresden Files, Book #1) by Jim Butcher | 14 | 17.95% | |
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08-23-2011, 07:36 PM | #46 | |
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Is there a way for Alex to remove the link to see the votes before the vote is cast? |
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08-23-2011, 08:13 PM | #47 | ||
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People are saying they're happy with the process as it is now. So why is it worth trying something different? Quote:
ETA: I have yet to see why anyone thinks it would be better to have blind voting. Those of us who like the open vote have mentioned curiosity, familiarity with the literary profile of other MR members, enhanced strategic voting, among other reasons. But what is appealing about blind voting? "Fair" is applying a value to it that doesn't really obtain; any method can be fair if there's no overt coercion or multiple votes. What's the advantage? I'm really curious. Last edited by issybird; 08-23-2011 at 08:27 PM. |
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08-23-2011, 08:29 PM | #48 | |
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08-23-2011, 08:42 PM | #50 | |
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Also, if we can't see the votes before hand then it should also go without saying that we would not mention the specific book that got our vote. The result would then be a complete surprise for everyone, which I think might even make it more interesting over all. |
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08-23-2011, 08:56 PM | #51 | |
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I also think some of the influences you mention are fairly minor. Even if I don't care for a poster, I'm not going to vote against a book s/he's nominated if I want to read it. Nor will I vote for a book nominated by a crony, if I think that person has crappy taste (although obviously s/he must have other sterling qualities!). I would just like to see a more dispassionate discussion that leaves out fairness and honesty and other loaded terms (with the implication that the opposing camp is in favor of a system neither fair nor honest), and focuses on the concrete advantages and disadvantages of each method. |
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08-23-2011, 09:05 PM | #52 |
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Remove the word "honest", my answer remains the same.
"Invalidate" is also a loaded word, and I have not read anything in this thread that would suggest that anyone is invalidating anything. "We" are just asking to give something else a chance. There may be no advantage for you, but there is obviously an appeal for those of us who would like to give blind voting a try. |
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I am honest and would not cheat just to get what I wanted. In fact, I'd be looking forward to the results. |
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08-23-2011, 09:15 PM | #54 | |
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I'm just asking what the appeal is, so I can understand it. For me, the current system is superior as I think more people will be reasonably pleased with the outcome. That should result in more people reading the selected book and a livelier discussion, also, which obviously is to be desired. In any case, I'm not seeing a groundswell that says people don't like the current system. Quite the contrary. |
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I'm currently not voting (too much going on in my life right now), but I wouldn't continue with the book club if the current system was changed. Mostly I vote my heart and desires, but there are occasions when I like seeing how the vote is going and I *have*, on occasion, added a vote to a close competition for a book that I'd really like to see win. And I seriously don't believe that any monthly choice was ever *really* changed by having a public poll.
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What is this fear of trying something new? Its not written in stone, and even if it was, someone's got a chisel and is ready to use it. |
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08-23-2011, 09:28 PM | #57 |
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We have had this discussion before and currently the forum software does not support a blind vote. It was decided it was going to be too much for PilotBob to do it via PM. So I am volunteering to do it via PM and it will be 100% fair and above board.
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08-24-2011, 01:32 AM | #58 |
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I prefer things the way they are.
For crying out loud, we're supposedly adult people and we're choosing what book to discuss, not selecting a president! I like to be able to see early what books might look like winners so I can start hunting for them at libraries. If I don't want to read the winning book I don't read it. What's the big deal?! (For example this month: I have no desire whatsoever to read the current leader. Might read a couple of the others though.) |
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It is nice to be able to see who voted for which book and so to be able to match tastes of other forum members with one's own. It also does not bother me that the number of votes per book is visible. I would never be tempted to vote for something that does not interest me just because the majority up to this point thought it might be nice reading material. Edit: Participating by sending a PM is NOT an option for me; that would be a month I would definitely skip. Last edited by lila55; 08-24-2011 at 01:51 AM. |
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I am sorry you feel you cannot vote if you cannot see what others have voted for before you cast your vote. The reasons I'm seeing for not having a blind vote are the very reasons we should have a blind vote. |
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