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It's not an uncommon attitude. See, indie books mark the end of civilization. Of course, indie music doesn't. http://indiereader.com/2014/02/indie...r-indie-books/ Nor indie movies--they even have cable channel for it carried by all the cablecos and satcos. Or indie gamers; Sony and Microsoft argue over who is friendlier to indiegame developers, Google's Play and Apple's iTunes App Store are chock-a-block with indie software, literally by the million in Apple's case. Indie musicians are so cool, second tier studio acts change their name and pretend to be newcomers to pass for indie. http://www.good.is/posts/why-does-in...e-lana-del-ray Indie movies are art, not the commercial drivel you get from the blockbuster-obsessed studios. Even when they come from the same directors and feature the same actors. Indie movies are special snowflakes. Indie is good if you're a musician or a director or an actor or even a software developer. You're special! You're not selling out to the establishment! But if you're an author and you choose to bypass the establishment then you're not even fit to call yourself a writer. You ought to be ashamed to show your face in public pretending to be an author just because you wrote a book. Feh! No double standard here, no siree... |
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No, I think you are being unfair.
Yes, if you publish a book, whether self published or not, in softcover, paperback, hardcover or ebook, that makes you an author. Period. Whether you continue being an author depends on your resources. Snobbish idea that a book has to be in hardcover. |
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03-05-2014, 11:26 AM | #18 |
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If you are going to draw your personal line in the sand, then at least get your metaphors correct. A completed book that has been published (either self or by publisher means) is a far cry from a tool that a doctor uses.
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03-05-2014, 11:38 AM | #19 |
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It's not a matter of what the publishing format is, but if someone calls himself or herself an author, I would expect that person to be earning money from writing.
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Just because you can read, does that make you a reader.
Just because you can hear, does that make you a listener. It's a game that can be played endlessly. |
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In fact, that is the criterion that professional author associations use to vet their membership. So far, the Canadian Authors Union and the Romance Writers of America both accept indie published authors as members and the Science Fiction Writers of America is currently drafting guidelines to do the same. In all three cases the requirement is to have earned 'x' amount of money over a single calendar year, where the specified amount for indie publishers is a *multiple* of the requirement for traditionally-published authors minimum income, because it is easier to make money by going indie. Edit: From the RWA guidelines: http://www.rainbowromancewriters.com/node/544 Quote:
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If they are a good/great author or not, is a completely different matter. That *you* only see someone as an author if he or she is published in hardcover by one of the big publishers, is your very own problem. By the way: there are many authors/writers who have never, written a book, ever. They write short stories, poems, news posts, blog posts, scientific articles.... on and on and on. Last edited by Katsunami; 03-05-2014 at 01:40 PM. |
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Hi there, Moonshot. I believe I have seen your posts over at Goodreads.
In answer to your question, a writer is someone who writes. That doesn't make them a good writer. An author is someone who has published some material somewhere. That doesn't make them a good author. A speaker is someone who speaks. That doesn't make them a good speaker. A singer is someone who sings. That doesn't make them a good singer. At one time I would have questioned whether or not someone who has only published online is an author, but that has long been settled by the presence of ebooks that previously would only have been available in hardcopy. |
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every blogger or forum poster is an author
author =/= rich & famous (TM) Plato and other ancients didn't get money from writing. Getting money from writing is so XIX's... how about hurrahs? or peanuts? likes? BTW, I'm copyrighting my posts here just in case someone decides to sell them somewhere... |
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That's what I thought. This would probably be the best place I know of to solicit recommendations untainted by self-promotion Moonshot. Why don't you try your inquiry on this forum?
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