What can I do with a blocked kindle Oasis 2019? - Page 2

twowheels · 08-19-2020, 01:10 PM

Similarly -- I bought some Ball canning jars from Amazon. The jars that I received were counterfeit, with poor quality casting of the pattern, and standard lids didn't fit. I contacted Amazon and they refunded my money (I didn't ask for a refund because I no longer had the packaging, I asked them to remove the listing), but didn't ask me to send them back. While I didn't feel safe using them for canning, I went ahead and put them in the garage for non-edible usage. Does that make me a thief by the definitions above? Better than tossing them in the recycle bin, IMO.

EDIT: BTW, Amazon never removed the listing even though there are multiple 1 star reviews saying that they're fake. I tried contacting the real company directly, but they required too much info on their web form, so I opted out of warning them.

Pajamaman · 08-20-2020, 12:00 AM

Don't see the issue. It's not stolen. It can accept sideloaded books.

dordale · 08-20-2020, 01:31 AM

My feelings mirror issybird's. Nothing has been stolen--Amazon specifically said they didn't want the device back. At this point Amazon has relinquished any control over what happens and the purchaser is free to do what he/she wants with the device.

Full disclosure should be made (as it was in this case) as to the history of the device, and future buyer beware. But I don't see anything unethical here. Now, if Amazon had requested a specific action (destroying, agreeing not make further use of, etc) before they issued a refund--then the original purchaser would be violating his/her agreement with Amazon if they tried to sell the unit to someone else.

rcentros · 08-20-2020, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Moreover Amazon didn't let the man return his Oasis due to shipping costs. (Happens pretty often outside the US and western Europe).

Quote:

Originally Posted by issybird

I’m going to be a contrarian here. If Amazon didn’t want the Oasis back and instead just blocked it, the original owner still owned the blocked Oasis legally.

Agreed Didn't realize these were the conditions. If Amazon said "don't send it back," then the owner can do whatever he wants with it.

To answer the original question differently then... A blacklisted Kindle will work fine for side-loaded books. I don't think you get the use of a dictionary or some of the other features.

gwynevans · 08-23-2020, 07:18 AM

For all the “pretty often outside the US/EU”, I’m pretty dubious that they’d simply write off the cost of a $250 item - $25, certainly, but an Oasis? I suspect the OP did the right thing by staying clear and getting a known-legit Paperwhite, with the advantage they can easily take advantage of the various Amazon sales & offers without the hassle of having to side load each time.

Quoth · 08-23-2020, 04:36 PM

No Dictionary, collections or Amazon on a Blacklisted or Blocked Kindle. There are legitimate blocked ones for various reasons, though it can mean it's stolen. It's rare that Amazon cancels that even for the original owner, say they report it stolen and later find it somewhere it had fallen in the car or house.

Amazon *HAS* written off 4K 48" HDTVs. Like when two delivered by mistake.

jeff862 · 03-22-2022, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pajamaman

Don't see the issue. It's not stolen. It can accept sideloaded books.

A blocked kindle oasis 3 can also accept sideloaded dictionary for highted word lookup?

rashkae · 03-25-2022, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcentros

Agreed Didn't realize these were the conditions. If Amazon said "don't send it back," then the owner can do whatever he wants with it.

To answer the original question differently then... A blacklisted Kindle will work fine for side-loaded books. I don't think you get the use of a dictionary or some of the other features.

Actually, a side-loaded kindle *can* use a dictionary... it's getting them that's the issue. Back in the day, I was able to add the dictionaries I wanted to Kindle for PC App, and DRM'ed them the usual way. The resulting mobi files work fine when copied into the Kindle Dictionaries folder.

No way to get Collections to work though, and Wikipeida / Tranlation on-line services are also un-available.

Flaviocc · 05-23-2022, 03:58 PM

To add some information:

I’m from Brazil, I have all the ppw since the debut here in my country.

I bought the last one (6.8 size) and the rubber back is very sticky. It’s never happened with the other models.

I called today to Amazon support and they blocked the kindle, gave me a voucher to buy a new one and I don’t need to return the kindle.

Now I have a blocked new kindle, with invoice, and a new one on the way.

I will give to someone who needs.

08-19-2020, 01:10 PM	#16
twowheels Wizard Posts: 1,806 Karma: 13416548 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kobo Clara HD, iPad Pro 10", iPhone 15 Pro	Similarly -- I bought some Ball canning jars from Amazon. The jars that I received were counterfeit, with poor quality casting of the pattern, and standard lids didn't fit. I contacted Amazon and they refunded my money (I didn't ask for a refund because I no longer had the packaging, I asked them to remove the listing), but didn't ask me to send them back. While I didn't feel safe using them for canning, I went ahead and put them in the garage for non-edible usage. Does that make me a thief by the definitions above? Better than tossing them in the recycle bin, IMO. EDIT: BTW, Amazon never removed the listing even though there are multiple 1 star reviews saying that they're fake. I tried contacting the real company directly, but they required too much info on their web form, so I opted out of warning them. Last edited by twowheels; 08-19-2020 at 01:12 PM.

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Pajamaman Wizard Posts: 2,827 Karma: 10700629 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Canada Device: Onyx Nova	Don't see the issue. It's not stolen. It can accept sideloaded books.

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dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	My feelings mirror issybird's. Nothing has been stolen--Amazon specifically said they didn't want the device back. At this point Amazon has relinquished any control over what happens and the purchaser is free to do what he/she wants with the device. Full disclosure should be made (as it was in this case) as to the history of the device, and future buyer beware. But I don't see anything unethical here. Now, if Amazon had requested a specific action (destroying, agreeing not make further use of, etc) before they issued a refund--then the original purchaser would be violating his/her agreement with Amazon if they tried to sell the unit to someone else.

08-23-2020, 07:18 AM	#20
gwynevans Wizzard Posts: 1,402 Karma: 2000000 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: iPad 2, iPhone 6s, Kindle Voyage & Kindle PaperWhite	For all the “pretty often outside the US/EU”, I’m pretty dubious that they’d simply write off the cost of a $250 item - $25, certainly, but an Oasis? I suspect the OP did the right thing by staying clear and getting a known-legit Paperwhite, with the advantage they can easily take advantage of the various Amazon sales & offers without the hassle of having to side load each time.

08-23-2020, 04:36 PM	#21
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,605 Karma: 87456643 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	No Dictionary, collections or Amazon on a Blacklisted or Blocked Kindle. There are legitimate blocked ones for various reasons, though it can mean it's stolen. It's rare that Amazon cancels that even for the original owner, say they report it stolen and later find it somewhere it had fallen in the car or house. Amazon HAS written off 4K 48" HDTVs. Like when two delivered by mistake.

05-23-2022, 03:58 PM	#24
Flaviocc Zealot Posts: 127 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2019 Location: Brazil Device: Kindle PPW5 / Kobo Aura One	To add some information: I’m from Brazil, I have all the ppw since the debut here in my country. I bought the last one (6.8 size) and the rubber back is very sticky. It’s never happened with the other models. I called today to Amazon support and they blocked the kindle, gave me a voucher to buy a new one and I don’t need to return the kindle. Now I have a blocked new kindle, with invoice, and a new one on the way. I will give to someone who needs.

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