Amazon and DRM changes - Page 148

DiapDealer · 08-02-2023, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ma'am-I-Am

I'd think it's the users who are accountable - not Mobileread. It's just information.

And you'd be wrong. Hence the reason for Mobileread's policy. Individual semi-anonymous MR users are never going to be legally pursued or served takedown notices (warranted or not). Owners are.

You want to post links to Alf's blog, and to all those who have forked the original tools? Have at it. You want to announce that new versions have been released? No problem. Mention that something has broken the current methods? Sure thing.

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But the owner of the Mobileread Forum does not want detailed DRM-removal instructions/discussions hosted on his servers. The End.

"It's just information" is a terrible oversimplification of a rather complex legal situation.

MichaelKindle · 08-03-2023, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ma'am-I-Am

I kind of have to agree. It's just lip service considering what one can find here. As for "jurisdictions" mentioned, I'd think it's the users who are accountable - not Mobileread. It's just information.

Having said that, you can always try PMing someone.

https://www2.mobileread.com/i/smiliestext/thankyou.gif

MichaelKindle · 08-03-2023, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

And you'd be wrong. Hence the reason for Mobileread's policy. Individual semi-anonymous MR users are never going to be legally pursued or served takedown notices (warranted or not). Owners are.

You want to post links to Alf's blog, and to all those who have forked the original tools? Have at it. You want to announce that new versions have been released? No problem. Mention that something has broken the current methods? Sure thing.
But the owner of the Mobileread Forum does not want detailed DRM-removal instructions/discussions hosted on his servers. The End.

"It's just information" is a terrible oversimplification of a rather complex legal situation.

Ok, I get it. Thanks for clarifying. MR is a super site!

Ollonii · 08-20-2023, 03:22 PM

I have two Kindle Scribes, a Paperwhite (5th gen), and several other versions that I don't currently use. I've never had problems downloading and reading Kindle Versions of books I've purchased on Amazon until yesterday.

Two technical books I purchased directly from Amazon show up in my Library on the scribes, but cannot be downloaded. If I got to Manage Your Content on Amazon's website and try to download either book for transfer to a Kindle registered to my account, I get a message saying "You do not have any compatible devices registered for this content." The only reader I can download it to is the very latest version of Kindle for PC (which defeats the purpose of having the scribes and of purchasing the ebook).

Anyone else have this trouble? Is this a new DRM issue that Amazon pushed to publishing before enabling its Kindles?

I'm not trying to remove DRM (and I don't care about DRM as long as I have access to my purchased books), I'm just trying to read the books, mainly on the Scribes because the Scribe seems much better at displaying technical information than any of the other Kindle versions. Plus, I can take notes.

Thanks for any thoughts. Comments from Amazon particularly appreciated

JSWolf · 08-20-2023, 03:28 PM

You'll have to give us the links to these eBooks so we can check if they are KFX only. If they are, that's why you are unable to download them.

Sirtel · 08-20-2023, 03:32 PM

Amazon doesn't comment here.

They're probably books Amazon considers incompatible with eink. This information should be available on those books' webpages - a list of devices/apps they can be downloaded to.

Ollonii · 08-20-2023, 03:46 PM

Yes, I should have given the ASINs.

B07CVKH7BD - Operating System Concepts, 10th Edition
B09HBJR78P - Algorithms

Both are Kindle Editions and don't mention restrictions on Kindle version.

Ollonii · 08-20-2023, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

Amazon doesn't comment here.

I know - thus the smiley - but I wish the did.

Ollonii · 08-20-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

You'll have to give us the links to these eBooks so we can check if they are KFX only.

Absolutely, sorry. The ASINs are:

B07CVKH7BD - Operating System Concepts, 10th Edition
B09HBJR78P - Algorithms 1st Edition

Both are listed as Kindle Edidtions.

JSWolf · 08-20-2023, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ollonii

I know - thus the smiley - but I wish the did.

Can we please have the links to the eBooks so we can try to see what's what?

Ollonii · 08-20-2023, 03:56 PM

Ah. I see they've changed the message on the Algorithms page and the other one suggests it's only available on PCs. Hardly seems to be a "Kindle Edition."

Sorry for the bother.

Ollonii · 08-20-2023, 03:57 PM

Thanks. I submitted an answer right away but, it seems I've so little reputation, I must wait for a moderator.

JSWolf · 08-20-2023, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollonii

Thanks. I submitted an answer right away but, it seems I've so little reputation, I must wait for a moderator.

Gotcha. It'll happen eventually. And eventually you'll not need moderation.

Ollonii · 08-20-2023, 04:03 PM

But I think I see the problem now. Both pages have been updated to say only PC versions can read the files. Not really "Kindle Versions", I'd say. Thanks, all.

Josieb1 · 08-20-2023, 04:59 PM

B07CVKH7BD - Operating System Concepts, 10th Edition

The above book is not compatible for eink. It says that on the ebook page. I expect you will find the same thing for the other book.

08-20-2023, 03:22 PM	#2209
Ollonii Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2023 Device: Kindle Scribe	Can't download books purchased on Aug 19th to any Kindle except PC I have two Kindle Scribes, a Paperwhite (5th gen), and several other versions that I don't currently use. I've never had problems downloading and reading Kindle Versions of books I've purchased on Amazon until yesterday. Two technical books I purchased directly from Amazon show up in my Library on the scribes, but cannot be downloaded. If I got to Manage Your Content on Amazon's website and try to download either book for transfer to a Kindle registered to my account, I get a message saying "You do not have any compatible devices registered for this content." The only reader I can download it to is the very latest version of Kindle for PC (which defeats the purpose of having the scribes and of purchasing the ebook). Anyone else have this trouble? Is this a new DRM issue that Amazon pushed to publishing before enabling its Kindles? I'm not trying to remove DRM (and I don't care about DRM as long as I have access to my purchased books), I'm just trying to read the books, mainly on the Scribes because the Scribe seems much better at displaying technical information than any of the other Kindle versions. Plus, I can take notes. Thanks for any thoughts. Comments from Amazon particularly appreciated

08-20-2023, 03:28 PM	#2210
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,531 Karma: 129670952 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	You'll have to give us the links to these eBooks so we can check if they are KFX only. If they are, that's why you are unable to download them. Last edited by JSWolf; 08-20-2023 at 03:31 PM.

08-20-2023, 04:59 PM	#2220
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,027 Karma: 18018738 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, PW SE & Kindle 2022, Kobo Libra 2	B07CVKH7BD - Operating System Concepts, 10th Edition The above book is not compatible for eink. It says that on the ebook page. I expect you will find the same thing for the other book. Attached Thumbnails

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Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 10,398 Karma: 225537496 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	Amazon doesn't comment here. They're probably books Amazon considers incompatible with eink. This information should be available on those books' webpages - a list of devices/apps they can be downloaded to.

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Ollonii Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2023 Device: Kindle Scribe	Yes, I should have given the ASINs. B07CVKH7BD - Operating System Concepts, 10th Edition B09HBJR78P - Algorithms Both are Kindle Editions and don't mention restrictions on Kindle version.

08-20-2023, 03:56 PM	#2216
Ollonii Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2023 Device: Kindle Scribe	Ah. I see they've changed the message on the Algorithms page and the other one suggests it's only available on PCs. Hardly seems to be a "Kindle Edition." Sorry for the bother.

08-20-2023, 03:57 PM	#2217
Ollonii Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2023 Device: Kindle Scribe	Thanks. I submitted an answer right away but, it seems I've so little reputation, I must wait for a moderator.

08-20-2023, 04:03 PM	#2219
Ollonii Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2023 Device: Kindle Scribe	But I think I see the problem now. Both pages have been updated to say only PC versions can read the files. Not really "Kindle Versions", I'd say. Thanks, all.

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