MobileRead For the 2016 categories, as a 1st step, can we....

[HomeInMyShoes]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

...or maybe not the same category within X number of months.

I would trust you to keep us with a good dose of variety if you were in charge of the category for the month. Most of me thinks putting you in charge is the best route and you can do whatever polls, threads, discussions, even PMs to decide what the direction would be.

I'd like to see a month every now and then when we take an individual member and have them give us a list of favorites to vote to read one from. I think that would satisfy my curiosity and get us some really varied potential reads.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

...or maybe not the same category within X number of months.

Please dump clasic. It causes no end of trouble. Romance also can go as it's one of the categories that we end up with some really old awful book.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Please dump clasic. It causes no end of trouble.

Well, if you're sincere about wanting an end to any trouble occasioned by classics, there's a really simple solution.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by issybird

Well, if you're sincere about wanting an end to any trouble occasioned by classics, there's a really simple solution.

Yes, the one I mentioned.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Yes, the one I mentioned.

QED..

[crich70]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Please dump clasic. It causes no end of trouble. Romance also can go as it's one of the categories that we end up with some really old awful book.

The thing about classics is that they became classics for a reason. So I can't say I agree that they are all (or even mostly) awful. Writing styles may have changed over the yrs, but that doesn't make a book awful either. For that matter though a book doesn't have to be old to be awful. There are new turkeys being written all the time. And more are seeing print than in the old days because anyone can self-publish a book now unlike in the old days not so long ago.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by crich70

The thing about classics is that they became classics for a reason. So I can't say I agree that they are all (or even mostly) awful. Writing styles may have changed over the yrs, but that doesn't make a book awful either. For that matter though a book doesn't have to be old to be awful. There are new turkeys being written all the time. And more are seeing print than in the old days because anyone can self-publish a book now unlike in the old days not so long ago.

I wasn't commenting on how good or not a classic is. But sometimes it's just a hassle that month in the nominating phase. If I nominate, I'll try to nominate something I think will be an easy enough read if it's an older book or if not, I'll try to find something that's a bit more modern. Some think a classic has to be old to be a classic. I think that's not so. For example, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a classic and it's not that old.

[crich70]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I wasn't commenting on how good or not a classic is. But sometimes it's just a hassle that month in the nominating phase. If I nominate, I'll try to nominate something I think will be an easy enough read if it's an older book or if not, I'll try to find something that's a bit more modern. Some think a classic has to be old to be a classic. I think that's not so. For example, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a classic and it's not that old.

Ah ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. HHGTTG is fun no matter the media. I have the 1980's TV episodes on DVD. A bit low tech compared to today but they made do with what they had. As I recall the book got it's start one night in a field in Insbrook Germany. Mr Adams had been drinking and thinking about a book "The Hitchhikers Guide to Europe" and had the thought of such a book for the Galaxy. The rest is history. I wonder if Ford Prefect added that to the book.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by crich70

Ah ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding. HHGTTG is fun no matter the media. I have the 1980's TV episodes on DVD. A bit low tech compared to today but they made do with what they had. As I recall the book got it's start one night in a field in Insbrook Germany. Mr Adams had been drinking and thinking about a book "The Hitchhikers Guide to Europe" and had the thought of such a book for the Galaxy. The rest is history. I wonder if Ford Prefect added that to the book.

I really would like to see classic where the books nominated (overall) were not of the old and dull variety. We seem to get that every time classic comes up for nomination. It's kike most people ignore books that are more modern. Like if a book is not at least so old, it cannot be a classic. It's usually the same sorts of old books nominated and (IMHO), it makes classic a slog of a month because a lot of the books nominated are just dull.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I really would like to see classic where the books nominated (overall) were not of the old and dull variety. We seem to get that every time classic comes up for nomination. It's kike most people ignore books that are more modern. Like if a book is not at least so old, it cannot be a classic. It's usually the same sorts of old books nominated and (IMHO), it makes classic a slog of a month because a lot of the books nominated are just dull.

I think we can take it as a given that no one sets out to nominate a dull book. People suggest the type of books they like. If people "ignore" modern classics, it's because they prefer to nominate or vote for something else, and maybe it's an older, but not dull to them, something else.

I'm saying this because after all this time, I really don't understand your vendetta against classic month. I get it, you don't like older, canon, Victorian, public domain, whatever. But do you really expect the category for each month, and the selection for each month, to be exactly to your taste? That's flatly unreasonable. It's a big group with catholic interests. Just speaking personally, I'm pretty confident that the MR Club of Books only with the JSWolf Stamp of Approval would have little to offer me. I like classics, I don't like SF. That's ok. I'd never dream of suggesting that SF as a category shouldn't exist.

I see two possibilities. The first, of course, would be to let it go. The second would be to try to work within the parameter any given month and come up with a suggestion that you'd enjoy and that others would enjoy, too. Heck, I nominated the winner for Horror month one year, so it can be done.

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by crich70

...I have the 1980's TV episodes on DVD. A bit low tech compared to today but they made do with what they had....

"Marvin" was perfect in that TV show. Big, clunky, and looking just the way a properly-depressed paranoid android should look. I never liked the oh-so-cute Disney version of Marvin. In fact, I really liked the casting better in the TV series better altogether. They didn't have the tech, but they had the spirit of the series down part. I liked the radio show, too, as that came even before the books.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by issybird

I think we can take it as a given that no one sets out to nominate a dull book. People suggest the type of books they like. If people "ignore" modern classics, it's because they prefer to nominate or vote for something else, and maybe it's an older, but not dull to them, something else.

I'm saying this because after all this time, I really don't understand your vendetta against classic month. I get it, you don't like older, canon, Victorian, public domain, whatever. But do you really expect the category for each month, and the selection for each month, to be exactly to your taste? That's flatly unreasonable. It's a big group with catholic interests. Just speaking personally, I'm pretty confident that the MR Club of Books only with the JSWolf Stamp of Approval would have little to offer me. I like classics, I don't like SF. That's ok. I'd never dream of suggesting that SF as a category shouldn't exist.

I see two possibilities. The first, of course, would be to let it go. The second would be to try to work within the parameter any given month and come up with a suggestion that you'd enjoy and that others would enjoy, too. Heck, I nominated the winner for Horror month one year, so it can be done.

I would really like to see what people feel are modern classics. That to me would be more interesting then the old classics that we already know of.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

"Marvin" was perfect in that TV show. Big, clunky, and looking just the way a properly-depressed paranoid android should look. I never liked the oh-so-cute Disney version of Marvin. In fact, I really liked the casting better in the TV series better altogether. They didn't have the tech, but they had the spirit of the series down part. I liked the radio show, too, as that came even before the books.

The TV show used some of the same cast as the radio drama. I recently saw the movie and I wasn't too thrilled with some of the changes made for the movie. It glossed over too much and changed things not always for the better.

[crich70]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

"Marvin" was perfect in that TV show. Big, clunky, and looking just the way a properly-depressed paranoid android should look. I never liked the oh-so-cute Disney version of Marvin. In fact, I really liked the casting better in the TV series better altogether. They didn't have the tech, but they had the spirit of the series down part. I liked the radio show, too, as that came even before the books.

The new one did look a bit too clean cut as far is tech. I agree. Though they did have an interesting casting. Warwick Davis wore the suit and Alan Rickman did the voice. Of course that brought Harry Potter to mind as both were in the movies. I wonder what Mr. Adams would think of how it turned out. I also wonder how often the studios consider making a movie from a book vs. how often it happens.

[crich70]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I would really like to see what people feel are modern classics. That to me would be more interesting then the old classics that we already know of.

Would "Watership Down" count? It's often called a classic and it's not that old.