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Old 12-22-2017, 02:55 PM   #61
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There are plenty of other phone brands with a lot better update policy. I bought an Moto G4 as a succesor to my Nexus 5, but unfortunatly that update policy went out the window since they were taken over by Lenovo. If I was in the market now, I would look to Wiley or some OnePlus. It is such a shame Google stopped with the Nexus line. It was a good bang for buck.
I've received the battery for the N4 today and tried to replace it. (That was absolutely necessary, because a battery life of 4-5 hours when doing nothing is just... not good enough.)

As I already half-way expected, it's c**** C***** junk. It's hard to fit into the phone, and the connector screw holes are off the mark. I got the battery into the phone (after first damaging the rim with the *plastic* pry tool), but it doesn't work. I probably broke the connector because I had to wrangle everything into place.

I've been testing several different operating systems (Android 6.x and 7.x), but they all seem to be built for newer phones; even with the old baterry in it, the stock 5.1.1 was MUCH better with battery life than 6.x and 7.x.

I have no time or inclination to keep jackassing around with this for weeks installing and re-installing the phone with different OS's and kernels and reconfiguring the apps I need, and putting more money into trying other batteries.

In the end, I trashed the N4 (literally) and ordered a Moto G5.

N4 <-> G5;

Quadcore 1.5 GHz <-> Octacore 1.4 GHz (Both Snapdragon/Qualcomm; the G5 is about 2.5 times as powerful as the N4, and the N4 was already good enough.)
2GB RAM <-> 3GB RAM
3g internet <-> 4g internet
4.7 inch <-> 5 inch (size approx the same, but N4 needs a cover because it's made out of glass... the G5 is plastic)
1280x720 <-> 1920 x 1080 (don't care)
16 GB Storage <-> 16GB Storage
2100 mAh battery <-> 2800 mAh battery
Fixed/Glued <-> Replaceable

The G5 runs Android 7.x (don't know the exact version) and is slated for an update to Android 8.x. People are also busy with getting LineageOS 14.1 and 15 (Android 7.x and 8.x) onto it, and everything seems to be working.

Best thing: this phone has a replaceable battery, as did ALL OF MY OTHER PHONES before the Nexus 4. The Nexus 4's battery life was OK for my light use, but it always has been at the bottom of the range. The G5 seems to be average; only high-end smart-phones are better.

Just as with laptops, I'm going to adopt the stance of "no replaceable battery? Then I don't want it", except if the device is *really* cheap and I don't expect it to last longer than a year or two. I use my phones and laptops for 4-5 years, and if they sitill perform well enough, that might be extended until they utterly fall apart or just *really* can't run what I want them to.

If nothing strange happens, the €175 Moto G5 will do. I only need a smartphone for a few things:

- Calls
- Whatsapp
- Public transport apps
- Internet
- Navigation
- Sometimes: Youtube, if I'm too lazy to go and find my 5 year old Galaxy Tab tablet.

That's about it.

I hope to receive it tommorrow, or I might be out of a phone during christmas.

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